FFXIV's current state

[Reynhart]

so what you would require at least 4 or a few days worth sure if you expect players to only play this game.

Seriously, if you don't even have time to cap your tomestone each week by simply doing one roulette each day...why do you even play and MMO ?

Your example would be running being forced to get past omega weapon in ff 10 in order to fight Braska's final aeon to complete the story its dumb and something you can't do.

We're talking about overworld. "post-game" content has nothing to do with it. If the Lochs are open at level 60 with lvl 70 monsters, some people will explore it at that level while others will do it at 70. So, challenging overworld unless you powerlevel before it, exactly like past FF. So, basically, stop making reaching the level cap mandatory for the MSQ.

otherwise you'd have people whining because they need to be lvl 70 to do 4.1 stuff but the msq only took them up to 66.

If they're skilled enough, they won't have to be 70. If they're not, then it's easy to do some level up.

[thegreatonemal]

Seriously, if you don't even have time to cap your tomestone each week by simply doing one roulette each day...why do you even play and MMO ?

We're talking about overworld. "post-game" content has nothing to do with it. If the Lochs are open at level 60 with lvl 70 monsters, some people will explore it at that level while others will do it at 70. So, challenging overworld unless you powerlevel before it, exactly like past FF. So, basically, stop making reaching the level cap mandatory for the MSQ.

If they're skilled enough, they won't have to be 70. If they're not, then it's easy to do some level up.

1. Your trying to hearken back to the days of really long grinds those days are gone.

2. Yes the overworld people have to travel in order to do the msq having people who are below the level of the monsters and stuff there is dumb and makes it harder unnecessarily to do the quest in the area.

3. Seems you don't know anything about the game you play there is no skill involved if you are lower level than a monster you have a miss rate this gets higher the lower you are not to mention they will hit you harder. Players won't be able to kill the things in their way. All these pointless changes so you can have some "challenge" with all your 4.4 gear as you fly over the area.

[Reynhart]

1. Your trying to hearken back to the days of really long grinds those days are gone.

And in its place, we have meaningless rewards because they're irrelevant 3 months after. It's not because something is new that it's better.

2. Yes the overworld people have to travel in order to do the msq having people who are below the level of the monsters and stuff there is dumb and makes it harder unnecessarily to do the quest in the area.

Yeah, so those people will level up if they want it to be easier.

3. Seems you don't know anything about the game you play there is no skill involved if you are lower level than a monster you have a miss rate this gets higher the lower you are not to mention they will hit you harder.

You see countless people failing with higher level and higher gear because they didn't have the skill to do a proper rotation.

All these pointless changes so you can have some "challenge" with all your 4.4 gear as you fly over the area.

You obtain flying after you've explored everyting mandatory in a zone so it seems you forgot how the MSQ works.

Then please go play games that were made in the 90s and very early 2000's modern games aren't for you then.

Then go play 90% of FFXIV content, and just stay away from Eureka.

[thegreatonemal]

And in its place, we have meaningless rewards because they're irrelevant 3 months after. It's not because something is new that it's better.

Yeah, so those people will level up if they want it to be easier.

You see countless people failing with higher level and higher gear because they didn't have the skill to do a proper rotation.

You obtain flying after you've explored everyting mandatory in a zone so it seems you forgot how the MSQ works.

Then go play 90% of FFXIV content, and just stay away from Eureka.

1. This is a game everything is meaningless then. it has as much meaning as you want to point into it

2.They have to level up to play the game what your asking for is a longer grind to that because reasons

3. In ex trails and savage fights sure but that's all end game stuff anyone who plays an mmo needs to look at a guide cuz the game doesn't really teach any of that stuff. and your not very skilled yourself so maybe don't go down this route

4. Wes and while all those players who can't fly have to deal with really powerful monsters they have no way of dealing with just to finish the msq. whens the last time you had to grind in a FF game to beat the msq I will answer that never so why are you wanting to force people to grind in this one. you'll be flying over it all to a gathering point.

5. Maybe you should think about what you want and more importantly what it would take design wise to give the intended effect. The rose tinted glasses seem to be stuck to your face do you need help removing them? meanwhile i'll be grinding out my relic and hoping the dev team no longer listens to those asking for old world mmo mechanics to be introduced. considering all the overwhelming hate towards it i think they will learn or at the very least realize that most gamers have no idea what they want or how to make it work.

[Reynhart]

meanwhile i'll be grinding out my relic and hoping the dev team no longer listens to those asking for old world mmo mechanics to be introduced.

Please do. Give them more participation numbers to Eureka so that they'll continue doing stuff like this.

[Niraye]

Please do. Give them more participation numbers to Eureka so that they'll continue doing stuff like this.

a lot of player base has stated a hate for eurkea, no one asked for didem 2.0. High end raiders dont even like it. if you want a grind fest go play XI or even BDO honestly its nothing more then childish to see someone stating that just because they wish for it it should be that way. Quite frankly there are less people even doing relics now there was back in heavensward. that is a big problem as its supposed to be the "casual" way to get a strong wepon. If SE has learned anything Eureka will be discontinued next expansion and then we will get a didem 3.0 no one again asked for. People do not like fate farming, which is what eureka is.

[Reynhart]

a lot of player base has stated a hate for eurkea

No. Two very vocal minorities have stated their hate or their love. The vast majority don't say anything.

High end raiders dont even like it.

Since when high-end raiders are the target for the relic weapon ?

if you want a grind fest go play XI or even BDO honestly its nothing more then childish to see someone stating that just because they wish for it it should be that way.

No, what is childish is claiming than 100% of the content should cater to you view when you already have 90% of it.

Quite frankly there are less people even doing relics now there was back in heavensward.

Do you actually have numbers to backup your claim ?

that is a big problem as its supposed to be the "casual" way to get a strong weapon.

No, it has been stated that Eureka is not a content design so that everyone can do it. The casual way to get a strong weapon is farming tomestones.

[thegreatonemal]

Please do. Give them more participation numbers to Eureka so that they'll continue doing stuff like this.

believe diasdeam was required for the relic in hw and once it was done the content died so uhh no. Thats not how this works that's not how any of this works. You really need to learn about the game you are playing.