This Needs to Be Said

[KaivaC]

I'm sorry in advance, but having just fully returned recently and now seeing the news, I really need to get this off my chest. What is it with the devs and their obsession with Diadem-like gameplay? What is with this vision of theirs about this that they keep beating it into the player base?

“3rd times the charm.”

No, 3rd time is definitely not the charm.

Neither was the 4th time, and neither will be the 5th time.

3rd time was only manageable because, honestly, this was one of the most socialized experiences with such a large and diverse group of players. We helped each other. Still do in fact. We joked and chatted about anything and everything. For the most part, we stuck together and even today, still bring the low level players with us because all of us inside of Anemos were in this together. Then Pagos came along. Now, I haven’t touched Pagos myself, but from all accounts, it’s unnecessarily anti-Anemos. Too much grinding, from what I understand, with a healthy dose of RNG splattered in.

Now we get Pyros, and we get even more RNG added once we get our prize.

I don’t get it. Was being universally panned 4 times not good enough for the devs? They have to insult their playerbase by doing this yet again? How clear do players have to make it?

The playerbase. Hates. Diadem.

If you’d actually communicated with us on at least a semi-regular basis, or were open to actual feedback instead of pre-generated messages, maybe you guys would see that players do not like to have their free time insulted by a game we already have to pay to play. How many times do you have to be told that this type of content irritates your players?

Simply put, stop taking players for granted. Respect our time. Don’t insult our fondness for FFXIV. This borderline obsession , and really, some of the decisions made during this whole expansion, is just going to further alienate your audience. Seriously. The devs need to pick it up and get in touch with modern audiences.

[TheGrimace]

I don't know how many times we have to tell them before they listen to us.

[Kallera]

NO MORE DIADEM


Community reps, please take this and show this to the devs, place it on yoshi P's desk, word it clear, concise and loudly and often! NO MORE DIADEM.

[Deceptus]

And yet there will still be people who defend this nonsense.

[MuseTraveller]

And yet there will still be people who defend this nonsense.

Of course people will defend it because we're lazy casuals who want the relic and any content handed to us, right?

[Xion136]

Diadem and all of it's derivatives have been decried by this community. I only started in Stormblood and I absolutely despise the Diadem model. I never got to do Diadem but I've done Anemos and I spent half an hour in Pagos.


This grand experiment failed and insulted my time.

[ko_]

The only way to stop it is to not do it. I don't care if you want the relic or whatever. You want them to stop and listen then hard change needs to happen. No - I'm only doing it for this or that- Cause anyone entering it at all is going to be the suits telling the devs to - Keep doing it. - Thats the cold hard truth to it. And oddly enough there's people - I talked to them- that LIKE pagos. So if people really want it gone you got a hell of a fight to have. And video games in general don't -respect- your time tho. They are made as time wasters. THe problem is pagos is badly designed.

[Caitlyn]

You can call it Eureka or anything else, but its still Diadem: a large instanced area with special conditions. Some might find this kind of content fresh and appealing, but no matter how hard the Devs tried, its minimized to a big RNG- oder FATE-simulator. In short: bad game design.

In my opinion the major flaw lies in having an instanced area. At the latest when Pyros come out, Anemos will be dead. So you have a huge but empty area where months of development is totally wasted.

Who will go Eureka with 5.0? Why not just add a new non-instanced area, like all other open-world areas instead? Why is there so much grind and RNG for the new relic? The relic questline was ok at the end of Heavensward and before Atmas in ARR.

Please dear Devs: no more Diadem please. Its not fun, you re doing it wrong!

[Istaru]

The only way to stop it is to not do it. I don't care if you want the relic or whatever. You want them to stop and listen then hard change needs to happen.

As much as it bugs me to not make the relics, I have done exactly this. I have a couple of Anemos weapons, I have not set foot in Pagos. I believe that what you said is true.

For reference, I have all the zetas and almost all the animas completed. I did 4-5 for each when they were current. I like making relics, I can’t support diareka. I don’t think that is good for this game long term.

[Nora_of_Mira]

The playerbase. Hates. Diadem.

they don't care until people stop queuing up for it. but i agree they still need the feedback from the community, i just dont think they'll listen.