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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    It wouldn’t allow for something like the 3-Sen opener, in which you hit Meikyo Shisui > Yukikaze (“8”) > Hagakure (oGCD) > Guren (oGCD) > Gekko (“6”) > Kaiten > Higanbana > Gekko (“6”). You can’t do that if the combos are all consolidated into 1-1-1 or 2-2-2 and require you to cycle through them beforehand to reach the skill you need.
    That's wrong. It's a proof of you not understanding what was written beforehand. I said exactly how a proper cycling would work, and what MomomiMomi wrote suggests this is what she has in mind.

    Apparently I was ignored back then for the sake of arguing with her, or it was not understood. So I'll write it up all nice and dandy, using samurai as the example.

    Samurai have these combos:

    Hakaze > Jinpu > Gekko
    Hakaze > Shifu > Kasha
    Hakaze > Yukikaze

    Fuga > Mangetsu
    Fuga > Oka

    That means a total of 9 buttons.

    By consolidating the LOWER skills under the HIGHER skills, we remove the need for lower skills. That's left with only the finishers, so 5 skills. You will have Gekko, Kasha, Yukikaze, Mangetsu and Oka. If you use Meikyo Shisui to quickly stack buffs, you will need to add Jinpu and Shifu for a total of 7 skills. Still two buttons saved.

    How does that work?! You put these finishers on the hotbar. You have Hakaze and Fuga and can put them on, but you don't. They are not needed. You push the button for Gekko and the game checks whether its combo effect is triggered. Yes?! It's used. No?! The game checks whether combo effect for Jinpu is triggered. Yes?! It's used. No?! Then game uses Hakaze. Pushed Gekko once, but decided to go for Kasha instead?! Go ahead, Shifu will be used the moment you push it since after pushing Gekko you used Hakaze, triggering combo effect for Shifu as well. Went with Shifu but want to get Gekko after all?! Push Gekko and Hakaze will be used since Shifu doesn't combo into Jinpu or Gekko.
    The moment you use Meikyo Shisui, the combo effects for ALL of the finishers are triggered, so the moment you push Gekko, Kasha, Yukikaze, Mangetsu or Oka they are used, because the game sees the combo triggered. It doesn't need to start from Hakaze/Fuga because the combo is NOT dependent on what you pushed last (this is true for abilities as well, so the combo will NOT reset if you use an ability in the middle), but on whether the combo effect is triggered.

    The only time when this combo method would have hiccups is with combos that have multiple foundations for the same effect. For example skills Strike and Pound would be combo starters and skill Beat Up would trigger as a combo from either of them. Like get an effect from Strike or get potency from Pound. At that point this method would not work. However, that method is NOT used currently.


    In all cases, you could still put all of the skills on your hot bars if you want. Though unless there's a "turn off consolidated combos" a miss-click would still work up like that, possibly "fixing" an error.
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    Last edited by kikix12; 09-12-2018 at 08:18 AM.