What do you think was the worst thing this game experienced from 2.0 until now?

[TheGrimace]

...eureka isn't that bad. It's still being done, yes even pagos, and managed to draw a decent number of players despite its faults. It's purely optional content, albeit partly due to it being delayed so long, and it hasn't affected the greater game all that much. I mean, come on, SB launch and Raubhan ex was FAR worse than it.

They had to divert manpower from other projects to create Eureka. We only get three dungeons every two patches now because they're working on Eureka instead. Dungeons are my favorite content in the game, so yeah, it is that bad. Especially when they had feedback from Diadem and Anemos and then threw it all out for Pagos.

[Matrinka]

Eureka. I've tried it. I don't like it. This will be the first relic since 2.0 that I'm not bothering to earn. It isn't worth the tedium when I'll end up replacing it in 5.0.

[razielvh]

Cash shop, and Lords of Vermillion.

[Xau]

It's purely optional content

problem whit eureka is what many people wants the relic, which is locked behind a mediocre piece of content what is no fun for a good amount of people, some people don't do it, some people do it just because the relic is in there, even if they don't enjoy the grind, even if they hate it, i am sure what if eureka didn't had the relic it could have ended up mostly dead after 1 week whit just a handfull of players doing it

[RiyahArp]

problem whit eureka is what many people wants the relic, which is locked behind a mediocre piece of content what is no fun for a good amount of people, some people don't do it, some people do it just because the relic is in there, even if they don't enjoy the grind, even if they hate it, i am sure what if eureka didn't had the relic it could have ended up mostly dead after 1 week whit just a handfull of players doing it

The original atma phase of the ARR relic was even less of a fun grind. Getting all the weapons and the Yokai watch second mount was more of a mindnumbing grind, since there was nothing at all added to the game, it was just grinding old fates. It is really not that bad compared to other content or events in the game. Its just recent, so it looms large in everyone's mind.

[Bahati]

I refuse to even step into Eureka so there is one less person playing it in hopes of making a statement at how poor of an idea this was. The fact we are getting less effort/resource put into other content just to keep dragging the dead Eureka horse is infuriating.

If more players enjoyed it, I could grin and bear it but it seems most people are not impressed and it's a waste all around.

[SendohJin]

i don't know how everyone who is saying Eureka is not suffering from massive recency bias.

Diadem is HW Eureka and was done much less and completely abandoned by both the playerbase and devs. there's no comparison between the two for which is worse.

[silverlunarfox]

The game has always had issues and things to overcome, the worst thing tends to rotate as content moves on...

However....
Eureka is the biggest amount of disappointing content that shows the worst side of the game. And the worst thing about it is....it's not done yet.......... It just keeps going..... -.-

Yes this game has more than one issue to look at and criticize, but for the life of me, I can't get past the junkpile Eureka is.

[Asiragan]

i don't know how everyone who is saying Eureka is not suffering from massive recency bias.

Diadem is HW Eureka and was done much less and completely abandoned by both the playerbase and devs. there's no comparison between the two for which is worse.

Sure, Diadem was horrible. But if memory serves well, most of the players reactions towards S.E. were more like "At least you tried".

The devs recognized that it was flawed, shutted it down in order to make Diadem 2.0...which was also a failure. But hey, at least you could gather ressources in it and get a better weapon than what you could get in raid (if you were really really lucky), so it was still better than 1.0.

During that time, players gave numerous feedbacks, many of those backed up with years of gaming experience, and well developed arguments on how to fix it. Sure, it's not up to the players to make the game, but the team could use those feedbacks to see how they could make the next content.


So, when Eureka came around, players got at least the hope that the devs listened to them a little and put some of that experience into this new content. But all we could see was the fact that they have learnt nothing from the Diadem fiasco and, and that's the worst to me, is that they are trying to defend it as if it was the players who couldn't appreciate Eureka's true worth...

In that light, Eureka is way worse than Diadem 1.0 in my point of view. But both of them are still terrible content anyway.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

The original atma phase of the ARR relic was even less of a fun grind. Getting all the weapons and the Yokai watch second mount was more of a mindnumbing grind, since there was nothing at all added to the game, it was just grinding old fates. It is really not that bad compared to other content or events in the game. Its just recent, so it looms large in everyone's mind.

I would happily do Yokai again over Pagos, and I despised that event. The difference is I could take my time, socialize or even progress it solo should I choose. With Pagos, I am forced to spend hours upon hours on mindless trash or fall behind, thus making the leveling process even more difficult. I can also queue for things like roulettes and kill FATEs while I wait. Can't do that in Pagos. And heaven help if you want to take a short break. Whelp, you just screwed over your party or they kick you and now you're stuck looking for a new one. Another gem, since I know how much you hate parsing. Due to the chain demands, people have started using parsers to determine if everyone is contributing a good amount of damage, and kicking them if they aren't.

All that said, shouldn't the developers aspire to "better than Atma and Yokai?" I mean, that's like saying "I get a D-. At least it isn't a F."