Thread: What do you think was the worst thing this game experienced from 2.0 until now?

When they made diadem and it was just kill monsters. Or when they re-did diadem and it was just kill monsters to FATE. Or when they said they learned their lesson and made Eureka but it was just kill monsters to FATE. Or when they made Pagos and said it'd be better but it was just kill monsters. Or when they changed pagos and it was just kill monsters to FATE.

Raubahn/Pipin Ex, Eureka Pagos (my static mates and I not- so-lovingly call Plagos, aka the plague), greed only in 24 mans, bow mage, blood bath being removed from WAR, the declining looks of the gear in game (in my opinion) with more pleasing items conveniently being placed in the mog shop, instanced in game events, housing savage ex which lost me my chance at a medium in Shirogane, the loss of Heavensward pvp and 8 vs 8 unranked feast, removing actions from individual classes to put them back as role actions and only 5 at that

Forced CS in the MSQ dungeons, Daidem, and Eureka (last two are effectively the same crap)

Creating a game that follows a very predictable and stale formula. Also Eureka.

Bow Mage, Square's over dependency on the Mog Station, and Eureka.

I avoided Bard as much as I could in Heavensward. Changing it back in SB may not have been an easy choice, but it was the right one.

They need to stop relying on the Mog Station so much for nickle and diming the playerbase. Beyond that, the whole rewards system needs a rework. There is no good reason why they can't make items like Matoya's Hat or Wind-up Tsukuyomi account-wide. Same for nearly every item in the shop. They could make this happen, but they don't because of greed, pure and simple.

And then Eureka. As soon as they showed it at Fan Fest two years ago, I predicted it being another Diadem-inspired failure. I called it and yet I'm still disappointed in how bad they failed with it. Jeez.

I've read through all the responses and I agree with almost all of them... Diadem, Bow Mage, Job Rework, Eureka, Mog Station, Raubahn Ex, Forced Cutscenes... but there's ONE thing that got to me the worst...

Story/Level Skipping

I am a major story person and, yes, some stories are boring or lame but some of the main story plus the Dark Knight story are amazing!! but to have such a series that is so heavy on its story to just be skipped is ridiculous...

on top of this, the story skip makes you skip dungeons and trials so you miss out on mechanics... the amount of dungeons, trials and things that I ran through after Stormblood launched that had no clue of what they were doing cause they skipped everything was crazy... I'm not saying you can't but to have run the game since 1.0, the changes and the evolution of the game and mechanics... while some aren't super easy to understand, it was very clear to see who had skipped and who had played through the game... I'm one person to take the mentor status seriously but new people don't like listening and understanding what needs to be done and why... so they just have us failing over and over until someone breaks... #NeverForgetGroupUpMechanics

Eureka and Diadem.

...eureka isn't that bad. It's still being done, yes even pagos, and managed to draw a decent number of players despite its faults. It's purely optional content, albeit partly due to it being delayed so long, and it hasn't affected the greater game all that much. I mean, come on, SB launch and Raubhan ex was FAR worse than it.

Originally Posted by RiyahArp

...eureka isn't that bad. It's still being done, yes even pagos, and managed to draw a decent number of players despite its faults. It's purely optional content, albeit partly due to it being delayed so long, and it hasn't affected the greater game all that much. I mean, come on, SB launch and Raubhan ex was FAR worse than it.

They had to divert manpower from other projects to create Eureka. We only get three dungeons every two patches now because they're working on Eureka instead. Dungeons are my favorite content in the game, so yeah, it is that bad. Especially when they had feedback from Diadem and Anemos and then threw it all out for Pagos.

Originally Posted by RiyahArp

It's purely optional content

problem whit eureka is what many people wants the relic, which is locked behind a mediocre piece of content what is no fun for a good amount of people, some people don't do it, some people do it just because the relic is in there, even if they don't enjoy the grind, even if they hate it, i am sure what if eureka didn't had the relic it could have ended up mostly dead after 1 week whit just a handfull of players doing it