White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Emstidor]

No kiddin'? It's almost as if he used real life examples to illustrate a point to people

It's blindingly obvious what he was doing, but when your real-life example is so radically different to the point of being incomperable to the situation at hand, it's not "bad faith" to point that out.

And one for the road: No one in this thread wishes to deny latecomers and casuals from (most) rewards. Specifically in the case of the White Ravens you know exactly why people are upset: Something they had to work for was just, quite literally, handed out to anyone lv30 or higher that can get into The Rising 2018 instance. It's not their fault the battle doesn't exist anymore.

Barring bringing back the original fight or designing a new one of similar difficulty (which I think we agree is a disproportionate amount of effort involved for a legacy item and obviously won’t happen), adding the item to a five year commemoration of the events of 1.0 is about a respectful way to bring the item back as any. Since by your own words you aren’t arguing to keep the items away for exclusivity alone, how WOULD you suggest they bring it back, given the limitations above?

[Darrcyphfeid]

Barring bringing back the original fight or designing a new one of similar difficulty (which I think we agree is a disproportionate amount of effort involved for a legacy item and obviously won’t happen), adding the item to a five year commemoration of the events of 1.0 is about a respectful way to bring the item back as any. Since by your own words you aren’t arguing to keep the items away for exclusivity alone, how WOULD you suggest they bring it back, given the limitations above?

If you want to tie my hands and not allow me to say the obvious "how about we make new items," the only compromise worth discussing is the implementation of the oft recommended Replica White Ravens or black-variant The Ravens. It's not ideal to just take those models and use them for something else - see also the issue with the Zodiac Brave Relics - but short of creating an appropriately difficult reimagining of Rivenroad HM or putting them in as a reward for something like minimum ilvl Turn 9 Savage it's the best option available.

The biggest issue with replicas, aside from still being on the wrong end of that devaluation line, is that there's the very real problem that some people are getting less out of this event than others just by virtue of already having those item models.