So, how is Pagos?

[Derio]

Pagos is really deconstructive.

People wont raise someone who is like a 30s run away from them because they dont want to break the chain. People dont talk. If you arent X level then you cant join Y group.

Anemos was so friendly, however Pagos is pretty much designed to be a toxic place. In Anemos people would break from the train to come raise you, people would crack jokes and chat in shout chat. Everyone is friendly there and having fun.

Pagos on the other hand is just a chain gang. Barely anyone speaks in shout chat.

The fact that there are two more zones after this, I just hope it gets better.

The funny thing is this content is suppose to be geared towards the casual playerbase, and there is nothing casual about Pagos

[Tint]

The funny thing is this content is suppose to be geared towards the casual playerbase, and there is nothing casual about Pagos

who said it was geared towards casuals?

i don't raid, i don't even do exprimals. but i have thousands over thousands of hours logged in this game. i am not a raider, but i am also not a casual. i love grind. and this content seems to be designed for me.

however, i agree that Pagos is terrible. but i like the fact that there is endless grind content for me. it just needs a complete overhaul >.>

casuals who have not much time can get the tomestone stuff. high skilled players have their raid stuff. i think the grind stuff is meant for people with lots of time but not that much skill.

[BillyKaplan]

who said it was geared towards casuals?

Relic is the casual alternative for people who don't raid. It's casual in that sense, not how much time investment is needed. The relics have always been a massive grind-fest, a lot of people act like it's not for some reason, that people want the relic handed out to them because they don't like Pagos. One has nothing to do with the other, the relic was always meant to be a grind, and more importantly a time-sink between patches. It's by design a long grind, even after nerfs. In that aspect alone Eureka is like the older relics, but that's where it ends, and the complaints come from everything else.

[Ilan]

Some people need to work on their definition of CASUAL.

Pagos is way more annoying then anemos especially when you are just entering it now because its not that easy to find a group in your level to grind mobs with maximum effectiveness and doing it solo is just a pain in the a..

[Nixxe]

Some people need to work on their definition of CASUAL.

Pagos is way more annoying then anemos especially when you are just entering it now because its not that easy to find a group in your level to grind mobs with maximum effectiveness and doing it solo is just a pain in the a..

I think an even bigger issue than that is that the design of the chain means you really can't come and go as you please, at least not without screwing your party over. I have to wait until I have 7 other people. I can't just jump into Pagos. Then I have to stay there for at least an hour or two. It's fortunate that I have nothing to do over the summer, but I can't imagine trying to fit this into my schedule and actually get it done at a reasonable pace if classes were in session.

[Ilan]

I think an even bigger issue than that is that the design of the chain means you really can't come and go as you please, at least not without screwing your party over. I have to wait until I have 7 other people. I can't just jump into Pagos. Then I have to stay there for at least an hour or two. It's fortunate that I have nothing to do over the summer, but I can't imagine trying to fit this into my schedule and actually get it done at a reasonable pace if classes were in session.

I agree. It is simply not enjoyable to be forced to stay for an hour or longer in there and makes me think of just letting this relic go.