How to give advice

[JohnSeal]

Debating the merits of criticism (or lack thereof) with you is pointless if you refuse to acknowledge that not only are you using the wrong definition of the word, but you are the only person in the conversation using that particular definition. In doing so, you are willfully misunderstanding everyone who is trying to converse with you. Like I said previously, this kind of behavior makes it impossible communicate in any meaningful way.

Omg it’s not only me!! I just take things to personal and I don’t let things go.... Many people agree that criticise and advice are different things! The thread was “How to advice “ and not became a big deal.
That’s my point and won’t change, I don’t want criticism of any kind, I try to defend the minority of players that feel disrespected by others and try to explain how the two things are different. If someone doesn’t agree that’s fine no hard feelings.
Please let’s try not to misunderstand other than my words my intention too.

I don’t want to debate I want to sensible the community, I want less sad or upset players, less reports and a more friendly community that’s all!
If some at least understood how to talk to others in a better and constructive way I probably got a result

[Jijifli]

I don’t want to debate I want to sensible the community, I want less sad or upset players, less reports and a more friendly community that’s all!
If some at least understood how to talk to others in a better and constructive way I probably got a result

And saying that criticism is bad and the cause is incorrect. By definition, me ever saying you are doing something wrong is criticism. If you're spamming cure on a full health tank and I ask you to not spam since you're overhealing and wasting 90% of your mp, that's criticism. If I brought up that you should be using impact and not just jolt, and that you should be using verstone and verfire instead of letting it sit, that's criticism. If I ask the tank to keep threat, that's criticism.

The question is, how do YOU react to it? Do you give the words a go? Do you ignore it and pull the "don't pay my sub" card? Do you prove why your method is better?

Just to make sure you are understanding between what is constructive or not though, let me give you a comparison using the same scenario. Joe is playing FFXIV, and he plays a Bard. Joe is having difficulty keeping 100% uptime on his dots, causing him to miss possible crits for songs and lower his dps.

Constructive would be pointing it out, and explaining a method that potentially helps. Such as an already given example, using jaws to reset the duration afterplaying a new song, as both are 30 second durations (the dot and the song) and makes it much easier to manage.

Non constructive is calling you garbage, telling you to uninstall, or silently removing you from the party.

Now, if you want all criticism gone, we're at silently removing you from the party. Do you find that fun?

[MoroMurasaki]

I don’t want to debate I want to sensible the community, I want less sad or upset players, less reports and a more friendly community that’s all!
If some at least understood how to talk to others in a better and constructive way I probably got a result

It seems like your desire for less sad and upset players only extends to people receiving advice, not to those giving it. I refuse to believe you don't understand that it upsets me when a dungeon drags out to double the length because of some combination of poor or uninformed play.

I have a question for you. Is something like this bad?

Bob is playing BRD in Hell's Lid. Bob is not using any songs. Carol is playing WHM but plays BRD a lot. Carol says 'Bob, If you just play a song as each song ends you'll unlock some extra abilities and give the party some buffs too. You can see if you're playing a song right above your Straight Shot gague.'

Is that abusive or bad? If you think it is in any way I can comfortably wash my hands of this conversation because you are completely unreachable.