How to give advice

[JohnSeal]

I think perhaps the fact that English isn't your first language is negatively impacting your ability to participate in this thread and this post is a great example of it.

Criticism and advice are synonyms. They may not mean exactly the same thing but in many instances they are interchangeable. All criticism is advice while not all advice is criticism which also might be confusing you.

If someone says 'Your DoT uptime is particularly low, if you focus on bringing that up it will help your dps. I used Iron Jaws as I started playing each song when I was getting started on BRD, maybe try that.'

The entire thing is advice. The part about DoT uptime being particularly low is criticism. None of it is 'toxic' or bad in any way though, despite pointing out a flaw. Things like 'omg uninstall scrub' or 'you suck' aren't criticism or advice, they're just rude comments.

I hope this helps bridge the potential language barrier here so this thread can move on. For the record there are a plethora of mistakes in virtually all if your posts that could not be attributed to 'the damn keyboard changing words' so perhaps be more open to the idea that while you may speak English fluently there is always more to learn.

Also, yes, that was both criticism and advice.

Your point is sensed,I understand what you say.
The fact is that everybody got different way to express themselves,nodoby in chats or forum can see faces or hear tones. Like you for example often sound really condescending, maybe your are not but it’s how you sound by writing.
I am not criticising,you can write as you want and you can be a great person that give sincere opinions or not only you know it!
Another person said I sound like patronising, that’s no at all !! Maximum condescending but that’s what she get from my typing.

My point being, if someone want give advices or help that’s welcome but they need to try to make it sound like that!

You know that translate English in other languages some things sound really rude? Auto translate are not accurate tho

Anyway I started replying to this thread when I saw people talking like most of community is bad and duty roulettes are horrors, I don’t think they are!!
You get set back in an instance when the tank can’t aggro 3 monsters or a healer is clueless but if DPS are not competent you go really slowly but that’s maximum boring not damaging.
If you join duty roulettes be ready to find inexperienced players sometimes so people need to live with that.

In anyway I don’t appreciate criticism and I don’t want people to shoot critics to others in my instances, if someone offend or harass get kicked, if underperform I will shut up and be patient

[MoroMurasaki]

Your point is sensed,I understand what you say.
The fact is that everybody got different way to express themselves,nodoby in chats or forum can see faces or hear tones. Like you for example often sound really condescending, maybe your are not but it’s how you sound by writing.
I am not criticising,you can write as you want and you can be a great person that give sincere opinions or not only you know it!
Another person said I sound like patronising, that’s no at all !! Maximum condescending but that’s what she get from my typing.

My point being, if someone want give advices or help that’s welcome but they need to try to make it sound like that!

You know that translate English in other languages some things sound really rude? Auto translate are not accurate tho

Anyway I started replying to this thread when I saw people talking like most of community is bad and duty roulettes are horrors, I don’t think they are!!
You get set back in an instance when the tank can’t aggro 3 monsters or a healer is clueless but if DPS are not competent you go really slowly but that’s maximum boring not damaging.
If you join duty roulettes be ready to find inexperienced players sometimes so people need to live with that.

In anyway I don’t appreciate criticism and I don’t want people to shoot critics to others in my instances, if someone offend or harass get kicked, if underperform I will shut up and be patient

I promise I try as well as I can to relay my real feelings in every post I make. If some of them come off condescending it's likely my intent because I feel the expressed views that I am responding to are having or will have a negative impact on the game as a whole.

At the end of the day no one is asking you specifically to give advice. If you aren't comfortable doing that it is totally fine. The conversation is about people who do (at least sometimes) feel capable of giving advice.

The demonization of all advice based on the rude tone that some advice might carry is a problem. It is at the core of "you don't pay my sub" culture; this notion that if someone gives any unsolicited advice at any point they are doing something wrong/mean/hurtful.

Everyone is responsible for their own play just as everyone is able to make decisions about what sorts of play they are willing to surround themselves with. If someone is not going to tolerate dps not aoeing large trash pulls I think suggesting the AoE rotation for that class is vastly preferable to a silent kick. This is just one example but if you look at the big picture there is no harm in teaching people what they need to know in order to play this game at what is considered an acceptable level for the content they are in.

Twelve know that SE sure isn't going to teach anything resembling a proper rotation so they have left it to players.

Edit: In a perfect world none of this would be an issue because people would take the time to.learn about their job and role. That just simply isn't the game we play in. If you think I am going to allow someone else's laziness or incompetence to infringe on my enjoyment of my playtime you have another thing coming.

My bar is not high - I expect basic things like a healer who isn't jumping around doing nothing, a tank that holds threat and mitigates and dps who do more dps than the tank and the healer. If people are meeting those standards there is likely nothing for me to comment on in casual content.