No more content like Rath Extreme, please.

[MoroMurasaki]

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There is literally a 'story mode' for this fight, though... no one has to do Rath EX in order to experience the crossover. Sure, it yields better rewards if you take the extra step but I don't see why that's a bad thing. Try harder, get more stuff.

I agree that difficulty is subjective, but to be fair optional content doesn't need to be accessible to 100% of the playerbase. They definitely toned down aspects of Rath EX, in particular his very generous enrage timer, which allows most players and compositions to complete the fight with some practice. Of course people who are literally out there clicking all their abilities with their mouse might be excluded but, to be fair, they can still do Rath normal to participate in the event.

I just don't see the trouble with locking optional, aesthetic items behind a harder fight. It's literally all vanity items.

[JohnSeal]

There is literally a 'story mode' for this fight, though... no one has to do Rath EX in order to experience the crossover. Sure, it yields better rewards if you take the extra step but I don't see why that's a bad thing. Try harder, get more stuff.

I agree that difficulty is subjective, but to be fair optional content doesn't need to be accessible to 100% of the playerbase. They definitely toned down aspects of Rath EX, in particular his very generous enrage timer, which allows most players and compositions to complete the fight with some practice. Of course people who are literally out there clicking all their abilities with their mouse might be excluded but, to be fair, they can still do Rath normal to participate in the event.

I just don't see the trouble with locking optional, aesthetic items behind a harder fight. It's literally all vanity items.

I agree with you in general.
The fight maybe be difficult for some ( I think is tiring and gives me anxiety ) and for others easy (my bf next to me is about to hit the 50 clear). I said that if people don’t like nobody cares and are free not to do it, but also they are free to complain about their disappointment. What people are not suppose to do is to insult others and their abilities.
Btw there is not almost any dps check in Rath Ex, you can bring kill him even with four tanks is basically only being able to dodge promptly but just some ppl don’t like it or are not good at it and they complain because we’re aspecting to get the mount easly, hey hope for something is not a crime at end (:

[MoroMurasaki]

I agree with you in general.
The fight maybe be difficult for some ( I think is tiring and gives me anxiety ) and for others easy (my bf next to me is about to hit the 50 clear). I said that if people don’t like nobody cares and are free not to do it, but also they are free to complain about their disappointment. What people are not suppose to do is to insult others and their abilities.
Btw there is not almost any dps check in Rath Ex, you can bring kill him even with four tanks is basically only being able to dodge promptly but just some ppl don’t like it or are not good at it and they complain because we’re aspecting to get the mount easly, hey hope for something is not a crime at end (:

Hope is fine, I have a problem with expectation. Expecting an easy mount for no reason (since SE did nothing to communicate the difficulty of this trial prior to it's release) is silly.

He actually can "enrage" in his own way. The simplest way is letting the Garula escape (which shouldn't happen but can) and the second is a second fire breath that he will do without a Garula present to act as a barrier. I've seen speculation that this happens about 10 minutes after the transition phase.

Since the enrage is so generous it's why I said specifically they toned down the dps check for him but it does exist.

[Nyxn607]

We need more content like Rahtalos, give us something to do other than steam rolling every dungeon there currently is for 4 man content.

[JohnSeal]

Hope is fine, I have a problem with expectation. Expecting an easy mount for no reason (since SE did nothing to communicate the difficulty of this trial prior to it's release) is silly.

He actually can "enrage" in his own way. The simplest way is letting the Garula escape (which shouldn't happen but can) and the second is a second fire breath that he will do without a Garula present to act as a barrier. I've seen speculation that this happens about 10 minutes after the transition phase.

Since the enrage is so generous it's why I said specifically they toned down the dps check for him but it does exist.

Yes the expectations are pretty low, just a bit of practising and manual abilities I agree. Still people are deluded because they were expecting it much easier,that’s all so let them complain lol
I suggested to many ppl to go tank (PLD can heal himself and use HD, also can cover so is even easier ) or just wait for next tier or next summer will be possible with 2 DPS (:

[RiyahArp]

What's made up for that is the randomness.

1. Rath does his aoe roar for 20k damage.
2a. He targets one dps for fire: you have plenty of time to react.
2b. He immediately turns and rushes the healer, not allowing them to spend a GCD to get people to full health.

Things like the timing or his roar; if he uses it shortly after the adds spawn, it makes it much harder to get people up to full health, and you NEED full health just to survive a rush. Or he can just do four slow fires on two different people in a row. Or he can randomly do his fast fireball. His attacks have tells, but the order can be randomized; so you're almost always reacting. If you get a good set of abilities its so much easier, but he can just decide to try to two-shot a dps by rushing them, then rushing again.

Hope is fine, I have a problem with expectation. Expecting an easy mount for no reason (since SE did nothing to communicate the difficulty of this trial prior to it's release) is silly..

You get multiple easy mounts for seasonal events; christmas bear, egg ads, halloween broom, Broken Heart, etc.

[Alestorm]

After having played MHW I get the feeling this fight will end up being a lot easier.

[KinzolaiVeras]

This is not a hard fight as I'm sure someone has already said in the numerous pages of this post, there's multiple strats that work based on level of comfort, experience, speed, or otherwise making the fight easier. Sure it's annoying to learn it and get it down, but wait, isn't that ALL Trial fights?

[Keicho]

are u rly criyng bcs to hard fights? go play wow please. i just play ffxiv bcs the hard fights. like you need a month to beat a boss, not 3 hours. i loved lvl 50 raids. it was so hard. but since kiddys come and play it gets all casual. the skills got easier, less dots etc. the raids dont have taht hard punishment like before. like instant wipe by fail. just fking keep going until u beat it. and stop flaming and ask the developer to do it easier. taht pissing me off. its easy enough if groups kill a new raid under 1 week. if we think back to lvl 50 times, T9 wasnt beaten for month. not much ppl was beat t5 even with this noob buff. just wait for the noob buff, tahts waht u need guy.^^ ppl like you ruin the game. "cry its to hard cry" just keep going guy. srsly. or do you want kill it under 2 hours and be bored until next patch? idiot. oh, beter give every mount dropped for all by first clear, and pls give us all pvp mounts by first win. such a guy you are^^

i even miss the time where you had rly hard dps pressure. means when 2 ppl died u mostly got enrage. but noo ppl like you makes it easier. stop flame the forums ^^

[Sigma-Astra]

You get multiple easy mounts for seasonal events; christmas bear, egg ads, halloween broom, Broken Heart, etc.

And none of those events were EX trials. You get special mounts for EX trials, they haven't broken any standards from the usual XIV routine.

Why should Normal mode give a mount when in the history of Normal and EX trials, that has never, ever happened.