No more content like Rath Extreme, please.

[Limecat]

I hope they add a lot more fights like this with alternate mechanics, if for no other reason than it allows any kind of party composition instead of having to be hard-locked to the trinity.

[JohnSeal]

I’ve been reading some many comments and points less arguing about this content and people feeling that got misunderstood so so would like to state few point:

This is suppose to be a optional event, not a extreme trial,not a savage raid but something just for glamour ( I personally think the gear looks awful on girls lol) and It suppose to be easy and accessible to EVERYONE but I find it pretty difficult and stressing, much more than any other event.

I think people are disappointed because this event is totally different from any ffxiv contents and I understand why, I personally think everyone like to play different kind of games and ppl CHOOSE to play games that fit their interests and abilities at the best. I know people that are great at games like ffxiv but can’t play “sport game “ ( I don’t know if I am allowed to mention other games on the forum lol), other ppl who excel in car game, others enjoy do crafting in ffxiv but are unable to fight.
Long story short: if you play ffxiv you may be disappointed if it suddenly turn in MONSTER HUNT xD

On the other hand: if you guy don’t enjoy the content Rath EX NODODY FORCE YOU TO PLAY IT! Don’t worry that’s just a collaboration and won’t happen again lol I mean if some player like it that’s fine go for it but if you don’t just don’t play because it doesn’t give you gears or contribute in anyway to your progression.
If you want a easy solution: Go 4 tank ( bring a PLD to heal in P1) you can stack alone and the burn won’t kill you, also if you can’t dodge the hit won’t take all your life.
I personally hate it and I won’t spend hours and hours farming for a mount ( I just want the pig and the boots xD) but if people want to farm it and find it fun it’s their choice.
Also if others don’t like it or find it boring: don’t judge or insult them thanks!

[Genoreaper]

You can get the gear from Normal which anyone can do, just not dyeable

[Fawkes]

Non-dyeable gear is trash.

[kikix12]

This is suppose to be a optional event(...)

Eh...It is optional. You don't have to do it and you won't lose anything. Quite the opposite. It being completely devoid of stat items means that you won't see a difference between having done it and not having done it...except in esthetics.

(...)not a extreme trial,not a savage raid but something just for glamour(...)

Eh...No. It was always supposed to be a trial with an extreme version. I mean...That's why it IS an extreme trial. The developers are the ones that choose what it's supposed to be, not the players. And the very reason why Yoshida even WANTED this crossover is because he likes Monster Hunter franchise and wanted that feel in Final Fantasy XIV. So it was supposed to be a trial like this even before players ever knew there will be such a crossover.

(...)and It suppose to be easy and accessible to EVERYONE but I find it pretty difficult and stressing, much more than any other event.

It's a permanent addition to the game. It's got a somewhat highly set item bar (320 for normal, but 350 for extreme). I'm pretty sure it was always meant to be a challenge. Not a top-game challenge...but there are casual players that don't do extreme content that are clearing it regularly. It's not a top-tier challenge. It just requires a different, old-school playstyle rather than the fancy "Here, we tell you exactly what and when to do in no uncertain ways so you can just focus on the mashing the buttons.". I assure you that this playstyle is very much possible for just about any healthy person. It's just a matter of them wanting to try. That's the difficulty...seeing as many people don't even want to get better...People dying to the scripted Tsunami 10sec in at Monster Menagerie normal on third and fourth attempt prove that.

[JohnSeal]

Eh...It is optional. You don't have to do it and you won't lose anything. Quite the opposite. It being completely devoid of stat items means that you won't see a difference between having done it and not having done it...except in esthetics.

Eh...No. It was always supposed to be a trial with an extreme version. I mean...That's why it IS an extreme trial. The developers are the ones that choose what it's supposed to be, not the players. And the very reason why Yoshida even WANTED this crossover is because he likes Monster Hunter franchise and wanted that feel in Final Fantasy XIV. So it was supposed to be a trial like this even before players ever knew there will be such a crossover.

It's a permanent addition to the game. It's got a somewhat highly set item bar (320 for normal, but 350 for extreme). I'm pretty sure it was always meant to be a challenge. Not a top-game challenge...but there are casual players that don't do extreme content that are clearing it regularly. It's not a top-tier challenge. It just requires a different, old-school playstyle rather than the fancy "Here, we tell you exactly what and when to do in no uncertain ways so you can just focus on the mashing the buttons.". I assure you that this playstyle is very much possible for just about any healthy person. It's just a matter of them wanting to try. That's the difficulty...seeing as many people don't even want to get better...People dying to the scripted Tsunami 10sec in at Monster Menagerie normal on third and fourth attempt prove that.

Mine was just a resuming of what everybody said in this thread, it really upset seing few users calling names or saying bad things about people complain about it. I mean the OP was just espressing his opinions and some of us agree. I honestyly don’t see it as a challenge because you don’t focus on mechs but just on dodging, I personally clear it just for and I got a bunch of clears for the pig and the armour but I find it di boring lol I am going as PLD and what I do is just shield lob and holy spirit, if I get hit I don’t die either so easy peasy. I won’t continue because I am getting bored that’s all. If ppl like it glad for them (:

[kikix12]

I honestyly don’t see it as a challenge because you don’t focus on mechs but just on dodging(...)

Which is a challenge too. Dodging actually requires some sort of skill, unlike the so-called 'mechanics' that just involve doing a specific thing at a specific time. For mechanics, the biggest challenge is simply finding out how to counter them. Since they stop being a challenge once you do, they are made more challenging in fights by adding multiple layers to them, like adding adds, other attacks in quick succession/simultaneously or other things to grab the players attention making following simple instructions harder.

Also, things being challenging doesn't mean that skilled players won't be able to do them with ease. It just means that there is a certain skill floor that is higher than less challenging content for clearing it. As posts around the forum show, there are those with significant difficulty in clearing it so it is challenging, but people that do not do extreme normally are able to clear it so the challenge is still lower than the typical extreme. Why?! Exactly because it's generally one thing at a time with this fight. You just need to focus on surviving his individual attacks which come one after another rather than all at once. And since nearly all of them can be avoided, a player that's skilled and is not crippled by huge latency will be able to do it consistently.

I'm not telling anybody to like it or not like it. But saying things that have no bearing on reality about it just because someone doesn't like it or finds it too challenging is not fine.

[KarstenS]

Don't know whats the issue of so many ppl.

I grouped up with 3 friend. We went in with just what we knew from the normal and killed it within the first timer with a standard composition.

This is far the easiest ex trial this game have ever seen. Only one mechanic at a time. Even in the Hildibrand trials you had to handle more different stuff.

[ko_]

Don't know whats the issue of so many ppl.

I grouped up with 3 friend. We went in with just what we knew from the normal and killed it within the first timer with a standard composition.

This is far the easiest ex trial this game have ever seen. Only one mechanic at a time. Even in the Hildibrand trials you had to handle more different stuff.

I dunno. I love the fight but to me it's one of the hardiest fights I've seen. I only got 1 clear and after being in over 50 times I haven't seen a clear yet other than my first 1. And people quit waaaaay too fast. I'm kindof getting depressed if Im being honest.

[JohnSeal]

Which is a challenge too. Dodging actually requires some sort of skill, unlike the so-called 'mechanics' that just involve doing a specific thing at a specific time. For mechanics, the biggest challenge is simply finding out how to counter them. Since they stop being a challenge once you do, they are made more challenging in fights by adding multiple layers to them, like adding adds, other attacks in quick succession/simultaneously or other things to grab the players attention making following simple instructions harder.

Also, things being challenging doesn't mean that skilled players won't be able to do them with ease. It just means that there is a certain skill floor that is higher than less challenging content for clearing it. As posts around the forum show, there are those with significant difficulty in clearing it so it is challenging, but people that do not do extreme normally are able to clear it so the challenge is still lower than the typical extreme. Why?! Exactly because it's generally one thing at a time with this fight. You just need to focus on surviving his individual attacks which come one after another rather than all at once. And since nearly all of them can be avoided, a player that's skilled and is not crippled by huge latency will be able to do it consistently.

I'm not telling anybody to like it or not like it. But saying things that have no bearing on reality about it just because someone doesn't like it or finds it too challenging is not fine.

Pretty much s fair point.
In fact I say this morning that if ppl don’t like it, find it boring or too hard they may just not do it at all. I personally did 15 clears as tank for armour,boots and pig, I won’t definitely do it anymore because I don’t think is worth so much time and effort. Honestly I never did a birds or ponies farm because I never cared, I you can get now ponies doing the trial unsync when there is nothing else to do lol
Still I run Byakko Ex and Tsu Ex over 100 times because I wanted all weapons(:

You probably where imagining already this trials to be “Ex” but tbh me and many other were expecting this event to be really easy and clearable with no difficulty, I was disappointed when I realised you need practice,guides and video lol that’s why ppl are complaining and got deluded when they realised was so difficult to get the mount.
If was suppose to be that difficult I didn’t know but probably a bit more accessibile maybe will be better.

Conception of difficulty often is really personal, I find Byakko much easier than Rath and super fun, like I think O5S it’s tremendous but 06s/07s feels easier and smoother to run, most of ffxiv player are not prepared to this type of gameplay that’s all (: