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  1. #91
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    All attacks are telegraphed.
    Saying they're not is just wrong.

    Sorry there's no echo enhanced aoe marker on the ground but the attacks are still absolutely telegraphed.
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    http://king.canadane.com

  2. #92
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    Elkanah's Avatar
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccan026 View Post
    I do think sometimes people over analyze the situation and read far too much into what a player posts (which is semi understandable, written word doesn't always translate well)...
    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    I stayed with it more to prove to people I don't talk about these things because I suck and want them nerfed. That's all. if they require hard content, I'll either grind it till I'm sick of it to be able to do it, or not do it if I can't.
    They're literally advocating they don't do well with any hard content if it's not MSQ or lower than Extreme. That's not "misreading". That's ignorance. We all knew what the original post was gonna be about and advocating for, before we even clicked on it. It's incredibly obvious in the header. I'm not saying they're wrong, but the cross over event with the correct monster, is meant to be a bit more challenging. People make complaints about this all the time, if it has an extreme or savage mode. Not just endgame raiders, but also the casual and midcore players.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yob_i View Post
    The issue with all you people saying "It's your problem, cause you cant do it." This was supposed to be a cross over event not some extreme trial farm on a time limit. If they want to make harder content make the actual fights harder not the events here for a limited time. Funny seeing all these people defending SE left and right and they fucked up yet again on a cross over event. First one was a grind to hell for stupid looking items and now it's over the top grinding for something that shouldn't even be remotely this hard, this is supposed to be fun not something I need to make get my raid group for.
    If they wanted to put a lower level monster like a Great Jagras, I can see that being the argument. However, it's Rathalos. Again, as I've pointed out time and time again, he's a high rank monster in the MHW title. Which means it requires you being a certain level and hunter rank, to get into that content, which is considered endgame, (outside of Arc Tempered). So it's actually pretty overall fair in how he's presented in the game.

    I'd also like to note that "this is supposed to be fun not something I need to make get my raid group". I did 50 of these runs. I have passed on savage and most extreme content this year. So I'm playing very casually these days due to work and other interest in games. But I cleared the content with casual DPS players, Casual healers, and casual/hardcore endgame tanks. 50 times. [B]FIFTY[/]. So no, it doesn't require your raid group. It requires competent players who can pay attention.

    This is content that does not have a gate lock on time limit. Squeenix has said this multiple times both at E3 during the PLL and in the last patch PLL they discussed. It's not a limited time event. It's here to stay.

    They made two versions:
    Normal - which allows you to unlock it with the 8 man to get the gear and the music
    Or
    Extreme - which allows you to unlock the additional minion, 1 piece of music and a mount.

    If you cannot do or play the extreme mode, don't. But as you know, just like any other extreme fight, you're gonna need to work for it. Whether it's casual, midcore or endgame. It's extreme. The Armor is the same ilvl as the normal mode. Just allows for dying, similar to the savage content armor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyu-Momo View Post
    all we get is a teeny, tiny arena where he can just stick his butt near the edge of the arena and suddenly as melee, you usually have to stop what you are doing when he goes for tail swipe number xxx because that stupid tail can't actually be cut off. (I still have not figured out how to see that stupid hop fireball coming. most of my deaths are from that. UGH)
    I can answer this part for you. It's actually a quick pick up, but something you'll see him do specifically. Watch his feet. With being against a wall, stay in FRONT of his left foot. Or, you can stand in the middle of his circle, and avoid the first swipe. Second swipe by staying in front of his left foot. This is a repeated two part mechanic. So when he swings once, he'll swing again. Rathian, Rathalos, Azure Rathalos, Pink Rathian all do this the same in MHW.

    As for the fireball, you have to quickly pick it up. When Rathalos is going to fire the fireball from his mouth, you need to get behind him. Easiest way to telegraph this, is if he doesn't use a move for 2-3 seconds and standing very still. His feet also do this thing where he takes a few quick steps back, before he does the fireball animation. As long as you're by his left foot, you can easily get behind him and crunch down on the prevent fireball. Once the fireball happens, he goes in for a swipe to whoever he's looking at during the animation. If he immediately turns to someone, he's gonna fireball while standing still.
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    Last edited by Elkanah; 08-12-2018 at 04:10 AM.

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  5. #93
    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkanah View Post
    They're literally advocating they don't do well with any hard content if it's not MSQ or lower than Extreme.
    ...I specifically mentioned this so that people would understand I am not saying this because I am a bads and can't do the content. I went and cleared it legit. My point is thatTHIS IS NOT GOOD CONTENT TO BASE FUTURE HARD FOUR MANS ON. I was worried that SE would look at all the "i like it" threads and just copy and paste the ideas to other trials. That's all.

    That I keep getting stuff like this is depressing me.
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  6. #94
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    Elkanah's Avatar
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
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    Both negative and positive feedback, they'll understand. The content is still however very new, and something that FFXIV decided to do by thinking outside the box. They've been playing it safe for too long in what, 8 years? If we're counting the gobshite that was 1.0. They can determine how much of their playerbase is clearing the content, and not clearing, and determine the hit or miss about the event or making it easier for the future/much more challenging. Feedback will be good for the company either way. This is a direction. One of many. Not the end all be all.
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  7. #95
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    Lenneth Valk
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    Lamia
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    Monk Lv 90
    before i got my clear and moved to the farm partys and even still for abit now ive had tons of rund that work suck buy healers have problems in the fight but i'd the problem was never it being to much for the healer it was always that the healer failed to not get hit be the big reddragon that is about the size of small building and burn through ether 2 of the 3 ko's before phase 2 leaving use with no buffer so we fail if anything at all goes wrong in phase 2 or all 3 and make us start over
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    becoming my enemy would be unwise

  8. #96
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    Elkanah's Avatar
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    To explain something a little more about Rathalos extreme, you have to throw what you know out the door. This is one of (the only) events and instances, where you can think outside the box and still clear it.

    People have cleared it with all DRGs.
    I've cleared it with all RDM's, all tanks, and regular party composition.

    I also want to remind a lot of people that this is something XI used to allow us to do. Think OUTSIDE the box of the fights. We didn't need a whole party composition of tanks, heals and dps. But rather, other styles to again clear the content. Some did require tanks, yes, but some also didn't. Depended on the boss. But if you are struggling with the fight, think beyond what the normal party set up is, and try some new ideas to clear it. Who knows, you may find something that best works or fits you!
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  9. #97
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    Geno Reaper
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    Ultros
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Not a timed event
    Rewards are purely cosmetic and offer no advantage in game


    It's funny the amount of rage from people haven't even looked into the event details. You can easily come back when over geared and get everything, you're literally crying because se for once didn't hand you a reward out the gate for zero effort. It's still only 50 kills for mount as opposed to 99 with chance of drop on any of those kills.

    I haven't seen mh players crying so hard about behemoth fight and that actually looks punishing.
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  10. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genoreaper View Post
    I haven't seen mh players crying so hard about behemoth fight and that actually looks punishing.
    they are bickering on mhw reddit lol. It's very punishing but fun! I haven't been this stressed about a monster since G rank on past games
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  11. #99
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    Viglundur Krummason
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    I think my main problem with this fight is that I have bad reflexes.

    Eh. I’m not a fan of the glamour anyway.
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  12. #100
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    Sigma-Astra's Avatar
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    Soma Kagami
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    ...I specifically mentioned this so that people would understand I am not saying this because I am a bads and can't do the content. I went and cleared it legit. My point is thatTHIS IS NOT GOOD CONTENT TO BASE FUTURE HARD FOUR MANS ON. I was worried that SE would look at all the "i like it" threads and just copy and paste the ideas to other trials. That's all.

    That I keep getting stuff like this is depressing me.
    You keep saying it's not good content to base future hard 4 mans and yet provide no other ideas on how to improve it besides saying "It's bad because I don't like the mechanics and SE shouldn't do anymore ideas like this". You're worrying because people like it and find it fun? What? Are people not allow to enjoy this simply because you don't?

    That's being selfish.
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