So, how is Pagos?

[KageTokage]

I'm already seeing bots in Pagos, which is pretty pathetic.

Then again, the same four individuals from my server were doing it in Anemos as well, so I shouldn't be even remotely surprised. I'm just saddened SE continues to let them get away with this crap even if the content is rather tedious.

They're partied together (One WAR, two SMN, and one WHM) and are scripted to zone in and run to a camp spot with enemies of the same level as them that they'll continuously farm until they get booted from the instance. There's literally no risk of death for them short of somebody dragging several enemies into the radius of their SMN's Deathflare.

Granted, killing same level enemies in a group is horrifically inefficient, but they're still leveling faster then me due to being logged in almost 24/7.

[Solarra]

More thoughts: I wish the exp penalty was less, or you have a much longer timer in which to receive a raise. What happens if your internet drops and you die while disconnecting, and cannot log back in fast enough to receive a raise.

Good point. With people needing to keep chains going while grinding, it's become noticeably harder to get a rez even if you are in an area with lots of players.

I agree about the Aetherytes too. With less people prepared to rez generally and even fewer who will go out of their way to find someone who has been KO'd, having to run everywhere the long ways is going to be very hard on low-level players.

[Fate_Testarossa]

I really thought nothing could be worse than Eureka Anemos but SE somehow managed it. They really outdid themselves on this one. This is probably the worst content I have ever seen in this game and it even puts Diadem to shame. You should pat yourself on the back SE. It can't possibly get any worse from here on out. *facepalm*

[Solarra]

It can't possibly get any worse from here on out. *facepalm*

Don't say that, please. I wouldn't want them to see that as a challenge...

[Skyward]

So what I have noticed during my time in Pagos after going in it at least once every day since release, is that it's bringing out the worst in some people. I've experienced more drama and arguments in here than my previous two years in FFXIV combined.

Ranging from name calling/insulting, to healers dropping the tank, letting the party die before using return/leaving (Have had this happen twice.), to tanks just randomly mass pulling to wipe everyone just out of spite.

It seems every time I enter Pagos something like this happens. Doesn't help I make so little progress as it is, but I gotta endure all that, too.

[Kaonis]

You should pat yourself on the back SE. It can't possibly get any worse from here on out. *facepalm*

You really shouldn't challenge them to go even lower. Somehow I think they could find a way.

[Izayoichan]

Well pagos is what I feared Eureka was. I have tried, and ended on the conclusion that this content isn't for me. At least not until changes are made where it doesn't require me to farm mobs in 8 man groups for hours on end. I don't have the health to do that, and by the time I would slowly get anywhere, the place would have died off because people got what they wanted. Yes I know its optional, but yes, it is also sad that I will most likely miss out on a relic weapon because of it. I guess I can hope they change it, if the complaints are enough

[Velhart]

What I wonder is, do people think FFXI's leveling concepts were a fun part of the game? I am a FFXI veteran from 2003-2010 (casual post 2010), and there was never a day I thought to myself that camping mobs and grinding myself to insanity was fun. This is essentially what Pagos is mixed in with an occasional NM hunting.

If they really wanted to bring something from FFXI over, they should of brought some of Sky/Sea like concepts into the mix.

Lets use Sky for example's sake.

-No elemental level. Just put everyone at an ilvl cap.

-Use the concept of FATE's, guildleves, roaming NM's, challenge logs, and an NPC that gives you objectives to obtain seals for Byakko, Genbu, Susaku, and Seiryu. Say you need to collect 99 seals. The content you participate in gets you 3-5 seals. Once you get 99 Byakko seals, you can unlock the Faction NM guildleve to fight Byakko. Have a reward incentive for other players who join as they give a good amount of seals.

-After you obtain all four seals, you can spawn the fight with Kirin, or make it an instance fight similar to ARR's Chimera and Hydra.

Sure flaws can be pointed out in my idea, but it does at least brings what was arguably the fun parts of FFXI into the game while not taking away the core concepts of FFXIV.

[tetsuo666]

Yeah got to lvl 22 yesterday and i think that's it for me,Pagos is completely unbearable and the weapon is not worth this horrible grind.

I did Anemos for 5 Jobs and it still felt kinda fun but this isn't, it's by far the worst and most boring content i ever experienced in an MMO.

[Claviusnex]

Good point. With people needing to keep chains going while grinding, it's become noticeably harder to get a rez even if you are in an area with lots of players.

I agree about the Aetherytes too. With less people prepared to rez generally and even fewer who will go out of their way to find someone who has been KO'd, having to run everywhere the long ways is going to be very hard on low-level players.

I'll admit it didn't take me long to become selective on who I raised in Pagos when I was still going there. I pretty much limited it to my group or cleanup after a NM where I knew if I died in the process there was someone else there to raise me as well. It is just too easy to get killed in the middle of nowhere and risk having to take the EXP loss. This is SE's fault turning what should be a fun group event into one where self preservation becomes the rule.