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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    The quest xp is fine for the amount of xp it takes to lvl. If anything dungeons and PotD give disproportionately more than they should, but that comes from people wanting faster and faster methods of leveling. I wouldn't mind them adjusting quest xp, as long as they smoothed PotD/dungeons and the overall xp to level up as well so that they were all balanced against each other. In my experience, the MSQ and the specific dungeons it requires you to complete are enough to level one job to the cap without any side quests/PotD grinding. Sidequests I left for my alt jobs; usually I did them between dps dungeon queues.

    Yeah, I'm gonna stop you right there. I've more gil than I need even after buying a home (the biggest gil-sink in game) for myself, one for my husband, and one for our FC. I've never once bought gold in any MMO, let alone FF14. Gil sellers are a blip on the larger issue of the messed-up economy in the game. We need more gil sinks; mounts, pets, any sort of cosmetic item they can throw at us (and honestly a lot of the cash shop items should be sold for in-game currency to siphon off some of the excess, but that's another discussion on it's own.) Regardless, throwing more gil at players will only exacerbate the problem, certainly not fix it.
    Quests are useless for leveling, but its ok if you think they give you enough.

    You gonna stop me right there? Then tell me, how you've got your gil? Only from questing and the mighty drops? I guess its more likely that you made most money with the marketboard which comes from other players and with that from gil buyers because everyone has gil of them in his/her pockets, doesn't matter if its around 1000 corners. I wouldn't mind if there would be a system to sink the amount of gil if it is usefull and not just making everything more expensive because this will just piss players off and thats understandable.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    Quests are useless for leveling, but its ok if you think they give you enough.

    You gonna stop me right there? Then tell me, how you've got your gil? Only from questing and the mighty drops? I guess its more likely that you made most money with the marketboard which comes from other players and with that from gil buyers because everyone has gil of them in his/her pockets, doesn't matter if its around 1000 corners. I wouldn't mind if there would be a system to sink the amount of gil if it is usefull and not just making everything more expensive because this will just piss players off and thats understandable.
    Most of my gil came from tank roulettes and maps.

    I have a large FC house, medium personal house, and 53mil. I've made 2mil in the last 2 weeks just off roulettes.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 08-12-2018 at 10:14 AM.

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    Rymmrael Bhaldraelwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    Quests are useless for leveling, but its ok if you think they give you enough.
    Quests are useful for leveling, but it's okay if you don't think they give you enough.
    (Aren't opinions just wonderful?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    I guess its more likely that you made most money with the marketboard which comes from other players and with that from gil buyers because everyone has gil of them in his/her pockets, doesn't matter if its around 1000 corners.
    I'm curious as to where you think gil sellers' gil actually comes from. They don't materialize it out of thin air, they just consolidate what is already moving through the economy. As far as I know, most of it comes from gathering bots who, now stay with me here, sell their wares on the MB to other players. That's right, the gil sellers's obtain gil that has been "produced" by legitimate means. So, if your supposition is correct (dubious on its own,) then it isn't a matter of "everyone has gil of them in his/her pockets" so much as "everyone has gil that has passed through gil sellers' hands in his/her pockets."
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    I'm curious as to where you think gil sellers' gil actually comes from. They don't materialize it out of thin air, they just consolidate what is already moving through the economy. As far as I know, most of it comes from gathering bots who, now stay with me here, sell their wares on the MB to other players. That's right, the gil sellers's obtain gil that has been "produced" by legitimate means. So, if your supposition is correct (dubious on its own,) then it isn't a matter of "everyone has gil of them in his/her pockets" so much as "everyone has gil that has passed through gil sellers' hands in his/her pockets."
    A very large amount of their gil is actually created "out of thin-air" the same all gil in this game is created. They bot dungeons in which the enemies drop gil. They go into the dungeon, manipulate their position, manipulate the position of all the enemies in that dungeon, and kill them all in seconds. Rinse and repeat.
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