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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    We need PvP that isn't so bland. They made it worse when they changed all the pvp abilities. I play games for both PvE content and PvP content, and atm, FF14 is only half-heartedly scratching my PvE itch.

    Also, chocobo races are my guilty pleasure, if they had Player vs Player only chocobo races, (with a much larger MGP payout to incentivize people to play it) I would be all over that. Maybe a flying track where you have to go through rings as well.

    FFXIV has so much potential to make things so much fun, but they always go for the safe bland route instead.
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    Honestly, I think the main problem is just that the honeymoon is over for a lot of people. After ARR everyone was riding on a high seeing that the game recovered and became so successful. And with HW having such a well-received story and production, people were still feeling really great. But, as years pass, the excitement is starting to wear off, and the little annoyances are starting to grow into big annoyances as the game doesn't change. The staff also began to get more comfortable/practiced in following the "same-old pattern" which people were starting to get bored of. So now people are wanting something new/exciting to "spice things up," or else they start "cheating" on FFXIV with other games and finding they actually like what they find and maybe don't want to come back.

    Truthfully I am not sure to what degree this cycle would have been prevented no matter what -- it certainly happened with many other MMOs. Objectively speaking, SE probably anticipated this long ago, and any dip in sub numbers is probably in line with their projections. (In their recent earnings, they even called out FFXIV as a strength despite otherwise weak results in that division.) But it would probably help, at least in terms of the tone of their communications, if they focused a bit more on trying to "win back" those on the edge. More than anything, I think people want to feel like SE is constantly fighting for their approval/attention (constantly trying to "woo" them like the old days), and isn't just resting on their laurels and taking them for granted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polyphonica View Post
    (In their recent earnings, they even called out FFXIV as a strength despite otherwise weak results in that division.)
    (I'm not surprised, considering how rich their cash shop is these days)

    As for the topic, well... I'm surprised the code base isn't mentioned every other post. Just about everything they do seems to be riddled with limitations due to it and even if they do have a nice new idea, it's going to be killed by that.

    As a regular reader of interviews, I'd also name the devs thought processes here. Their analysis on why tanks go for DPS focused stats misses the mark entirely. In their analysis of the effectiveness of the chat ban, they fail to acknowledge the effect of the Garo event they implemented concurrently and there's grounds to assume they commit the fallacy of equating "people play" with "people enjoy". Only the gods know why they decided to spend the resources to try and elevate Feast into an E-Sport, in spite of numerous ongoing issues, low popularity and constant bad reviews. A lack of foresight is common too, especially when it comes to player behavior vs intended design - Players optimizing their personal rewards often doesn't seem to be taken into account. And there's plenty more.
    Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that they try to make their thought processes transparent. I'd just appreciate it more if they'd make sense, too. All too often, I feel issues arise and get perpetuated because the devs just don't "get it".
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    What i meant was, instead of WHAT'S wrong, "what needs to improve and what are your ideas" question would be better. I always criticize but telling "this game sucks this way" solves nothing.

    I meant like that way. I have LOTS of things that i am not pleased as well but i don't say "this game is so wrong".
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerrinTaveren View Post
    What i meant was, instead of WHAT'S wrong, "what needs to improve and what are your ideas" question would be better. I always criticize but telling "this game sucks this way" solves nothing.

    I meant like that way. I have LOTS of things that i am not pleased as well but i don't say "this game is so wrong".
    That's what this thread is for. What needs to improve. How to do it? That's what they're getting paid for.

    Admittedly, not with my money. I haven't been subbed in half a year.
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    Huh. It has been getting a little bland.. I just never said anything since I don’t do Savage so I thought complaining about there not being a lot of content would seem weird.
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    Pvp def needs revamp. You can't even que into anything but the daily map. The modes are boring, kill nodes, kill Ice, or stand on base. Meanwhile look at wow pvp, from arenas to capture the flag, strand tower defense, that one with the mining carts ect.

    I love pvp and yet this game just doesn't cut it in that regard.

    Honestly I feel like western input holds a fraction of the weight in changes compared to over seas. These forums themselves, I doubt yoshi is bored enough to scan them, realistically he gets cliff notes but most topics he's already got his mind set on without seeing the full arguments.
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    GCD needs to be lowered by .5s, doesnt have to be WoW at 1.5s but if we could get it to 2.0s flat that would be great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    GCD needs to be lowered by .5s, doesnt have to be WoW at 1.5s but if we could get it to 2.0s flat that would be great.
    That'll make DRK such a joy to play
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhett_Magnum View Post
    That'll make DRK such a joy to play
    And SAM. I hit 1.99 with food already. any faster will be nuts x.x
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