So, how is Pagos?

[Matrinka]

I hated the low levels of Anemos. Once I got leveled enough to join the trains, I actually started to enjoy it. Not enjoying the slow leveling of chains and challenge log. Haven't been in since because chaining things is boring. Running around joking about NMs was fun. I'll wait until I can do that, again, or something similar. No chatting grind-fests aren't my thing.

[Kaonis]

you know ... the more I keep hearing people saying Eureka is like FFXI, it kinda makes me glad I was playing WoW/GW2 during that time and missed the boat.

People who say Eureka is like FFXI have never actually played FFXI.

FFXI actually had a point to grinding mobs, you leveled and got new gear and abilities to use. Chaining mobs was infinitely more engaging because mobs weren't just HP sponges and had abilities you had to watch out for. Combat was also slower paced so you weren't killing your hand to play, and that slower pace also meant you had time to talk strategy during the fight or just socialize.

[Rhus]

Just left an instance, cow fate popped nobody even bothered to go. 30mins inside the instance and only 61 people present ... might actually have killed the Eureka experiment with pagos

I actually see anemos with many many 20+ people levelling on the train just for the fun of it and social interaction they get even if it takes longer.. probably still viable up to 22/23 if you can have a laugh with people on the train and have a semi good time

[TheGrimace]

you know ... the more I keep hearing people saying Eureka is like FFXI, it kinda makes me glad I was playing WoW/GW2 during that time and missed the boat.

I don't like when people compare Eureka to XI. They really don't feel the same to me. There are similarities in how dangerous the world feels, but that's where things end.

Yes, XI had grinding, but it was a lot more laid back than how it's presented in Eureka. XIV's combat system is much more involved and requires you to be pressing buttons all the time for maximum contribution, whereas XI only had you using abilities and hitting macros at a much decreased rate compared to XIV.

Beyond that, XI's worlds felt much more alive. There were always far more things to actually see and do in the areas. Eureka is very pretty, but that's simply the aesthetic- aside from killing monsters, there's nothing to actually do in the place. There are no quests aside from the mandatory fetch quests Krile gives, there's nothing of substance.

If I had to compare Eureka to anything from XI, it would be like Abyssea, but again, Abyssea was more engaging. Abyssea had tons of quests found at each of the zone's base camps where you could get a myriad of rewards. Monsters actually dropped stuff in Abyssea. Sometimes you'd have NMs like an Amphiptere that would randomly encircle the zone and decide to land on unsuspecting players, so that added an interesting element of surprise and caution. That may sound annoying (and it was), but it added a sense of adventure that Eureka doesn't have. And ultimately, if you died, the penalty was much lower than how it's presented in XIV. The rewards outweighed the risk, which is something that doesn't match here.

As Eureka exists right now, it's a half-realized thought. Despite the fact they had additional time to perfect it before its release, the zones feel devoid of life and do not live up to their full potential. They could have been so much more.

[Claviusnex]

Just left an instance, cow fate popped nobody even bothered to go. 30mins inside the instance and only 61 people present ... might actually have killed the Eureka experiment with pagos

I actually see anemos with many many 20+ people levelling on the train just for the fun of it and social interaction they get even if it takes longer.. probably still viable up to 22/23 if you can have a laugh with people on the train and have a semi good time

Just wait there will be a patch to kill any 20+ leveling in Anemos because we aren't supposed to play that way.

[Raven2014]

. Combat was also slower paced so you weren't killing your hand to play, and that slower pace also meant you had time to talk strategy during the fight or just socialize.

Dude no joke, I just had someone today told the party to "stop chatting" while we were grinding. And we weren't really chatting, we were just arranging pull for maximum up time.

[Souljacker]

Just wait there will be a patch to kill any 20+ leveling in Anemos because we aren't supposed to play that way.

I'm sure there will be, and that's going to suck. I went back in there because it was more fun than shouting and hoping that someone had room for a level 23.

If they do kill level 20's in Anemos, they better add a proper level sync to Pagos. I really don't see anyone but the hardest of hard core sticking with this. I can't even stomach it and this is coming from someone who has basically never left Anemos since it started.

[Arkdra]

It's wild they actually managed to make something worse than Anemos. Really impressed at this new low.

Also, Eureka is absolutely like FF11. Everything you say that differentiates the two is just window dressing. The bottom line is that camping and pulling monsters is the second most quintessential ff11 experience right behind dying as you run to Jeuno and delevelling to 29. It was just as terrible in FF11 and it only got a pass then because that is just how mmo's were.

[Pyro2hell3]

personally I'd have seen the fact that all of player base coming up with and only doing something like the nm train and basically side stepping the "intended" way of doing something as sign the player base might not actually want the thing you intended to build but I hey could just be crazy

[RyuDragnier]

People who say Eureka is like FFXI have never actually played FFXI.

FFXI actually had a point to grinding mobs, you leveled and got new gear and abilities to use. Chaining mobs was infinitely more engaging because mobs weren't just HP sponges and had abilities you had to watch out for. Combat was also slower paced so you weren't killing your hand to play, and that slower pace also meant you had time to talk strategy during the fight or just socialize.

Indeed, plus the mechanics on how they aggro'd you made for some interesting pull strategies. Like how the undead's aggro range was bigger the lower HP you had, which I saw some groups use to their advantage to get large groups of mobs to take care of.