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    Rogatum's Avatar
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    Apr 2018
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    Gladiator Lv 25
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    Remember this:

    We have posted proof on 1. How cat person exploited the system, they explained how, even advised people to buy FC house not personal so they can resell it, and as this quote points out, shows cat was having a negative impact to the community. The player base should not be begging moderators and GMs to uphold their own ToS, they should uphold it based on the reports they get. We clearly see that not being done, especially in light of someone bragging what they did to exploit the system, leaves me confused.



    I disagree with the idea of letting people break the rules just because a lot of players do, it magically makes it ok


    2.1 is part of the ToS is there for a reason. I disagree people need to be that babied they can't see what is right and wrong. SE ingoring the NA playerbase is a different issue, and was a problem since ARR, you can't use that as a defense to break the rules. Also remember cat in this thread TOLD poeple to buy FC house so you can resell it since you can't do that to personal since they need to buy the land again, while yoshi-P said DO NOT RESELL PLOTS! There is NO EXCUSE to that rule breaking.
    Maybe I am not explain myself properly. Seeking a change to the system is different from asking SE to punish players for actions they have left go unchecked. This question will help you understand where I am coming from, would you be okay if SE punished players for past ToS violations because they made the choice to enforce that rule within the ToS properly? Or would you prefer they made a statement accepting responsibility that their lax enforcement of the rules created an environment they are not proud of and moving forward any ToS violation will be handled with the proper punishment.

    Once again, asking for a change in the system is cool, but asking for SE to punish players for because of their inaction is not justice or upholding the rules. At the very least they take a visible action against bots, and have made public official statements on the forums and load stone. You cannot ask SE to pick and choose which aspect of the ToS they enforce and punish retroactively, and that is what you are doing. If you want SE to punish players retroactively because of 2.1 then you are also asking SE to punish players that have broken other violations in the past if they can find supporting evidence of it.

    I do not think many players support the idea of being punished retroactively. Which is what you are asking SE to do, punish players for doing something they "claim" to be against yet have never made an official forum post regarding the issue. So how are players to know? Every housing statement has been in the form of a live letter response or some interview. That LB bug SE made an official forum response since they felt it was a major issue. I have yet to see an official forum response regarding the the buying and selling of houses, or the work around people have used to gain multiple plots. If they did not like such actions so much don't you think they would have made an official response akin to the LB exploit.

    Also the personal FC house happens because the value of an FC house far outweighs a personal one. Remove that value and the desire for more multiple plots is reduced greatly.
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    Last edited by Rogatum; 07-15-2018 at 01:15 PM.