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    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogatum View Post
    What is this view based off? What is are people that still believe in innocent until proven guilty.
    Based on people thinking this type of thing is funny or immediately blaming the victims... or even using the words victims and abuser in quotes to sort of dismiss the legitimacy... guilty until proven innocent is fine, its how it should be... but my issue is with how people are willing to dismiss the victims story all together or to blame the victims... why is it ok to give the benefit of the doubt to one and not the other?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    Based on people thinking this type of thing is funny or immediately blaming the victims... or even using the words victims and abuser in quotes to sort of dismiss the legitimacy... guilty until proven innocent is fine, its how it should be... but my issue is with how people are willing to dismiss the victims story all together or to blame the victims... why is it ok to give the benefit of the doubt to one and not the other?
    If you feel innocent until proven guilty, being leery of both sides is a reasonable response. May not be a popular opinion I personally feel the only person that can actively prevent or mitigate abuse is the person it is happening to. No system in place would have prevented this or any form of abuse really from happening. We can try to educate people on the signs, agencies to content but if the person themselves are blind to the abuse nothing anyone can do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    Let me be clear this thread isn't just about this one case in the article... I wanted to see if maybe other people had a similar experience. Maybe this was an isolated incident maybe it's far more rampant... the idea was to see if this is a common occurrence or not... and to give people a place to tell their stories of need be...
    Having a place share is fine, but I think some (could be wrong, lol 23 page thread) people in this thread advocated for the community to blacklist and shame others when abuse / harassment has not yet been proven. People need to be careful as to how those stories are used / stored. Let us say even if that was not their intent, when people write blogs about their abuse before going to the proper authorities it will foster an emotional response to those that read the story which often leads the issue being thrown into the court of public opinion. Which I never been a fan of.
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    Last edited by Rogatum; 06-29-2018 at 08:50 AM.