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  1. #21
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abelfei View Post
    It's a video game. At any point you can blacklist or turn it off. Get over it.
    But the damage is already done. Speaking from experience.

    Young people, especially those who have just started playing this game or any MMORPG, are often victimized by people who not only know better, they use their position as leverage. Hence, FC leaders, people who run sub-reddit/discord/forums, etc are in a position over other players that they can easily abuse.

    One of the reasons I repeatedly say not to join random FC's, is because of this kind of danger. If you didn't enjoy playing with those people, or haven't even begun to play with anyone, a bad FC is the quickest path to being pulled into something you don't want. Speaking from experience, the only thing worse is the "marriage" component in MMORPG's that players somehow players take more seriously than a real relationship.

    A previous MMORPG I was in, the first guild I joined, the guy who ran it tried to treat me like a piece of property and would get mad any time I played with anyone but him. It was like getting the full experience of a bad relationship without the physical or sexual assault. Ironcily that guy quit at some point, I took over his guild and then left it for the top guild on the server which I had more fun with but really could not get over how that short experience destroyed what was left of any trust in people online.
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  2. #22
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    The game itself already gives players a lot of control to protect players and the GM staff does take such actions seriously. While I have not read the article if any of the harassment in-game black list and report said player if harrassment is truly going on the GM staff are swift. I have had personal experience with this. Now if the harassment is happening out of game not much SE can do. In short FC drama should stay within the FC just my two cents.
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  3. #23
    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    I guess it's part of the modern culture where guys feel totally ok with opening conversations with penis pics... yes it's a game (duh thanks for pointing out the obvious) but it's not a fun game for people who don't want that kind of attention... blacklist will only stop a single character from talking to you in game, it doesn't block alts or friends... it doesn't stop people from attacking outside the game... the community doesn't stop at the log out screen...
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  4. #24
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    J'inwa Dakari
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    I'm a female playing both male and female characters. Most I have gotten is someone saying they liked the way my character looked. Nothing more. But I also don't talk a lot and tend to keep to myself most of the time. Even if someone did try to be sexual with me, I'd just say no thanks and move on. If they kept going I'd just blacklist and move on. *shrugs* No need to get your BP up and stress out over someone being a troll, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
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    I get what your saying, if people harassing someone in game keep black listing and reporting. Unfortunately while it may not be a popular option SE should not get involved with harassment done outside of the game, nor do I feel it is the communities problem either. SE provides players with plenty tools to combat such issues in game but what can they possibly do to players outside the game.
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  6. #26
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    Usho's Avatar
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    Masahiro Kido
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    Sexual Harassment in a MMORPG? Nani??


    Seriously though, if you feel you are being harassed, report the harasser or /blist the person. This is not rocket science...you have options available to you...USE THEM.


    /2 cents
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    After reading an article in PC gamer about sexual harassment in THIS GAME, I began thinking about my own experiences in game. I am a male and play as a male
    Unfortunately you probably shouldn't have mentioned this.

    Female being sexually harassed, people will defend her (and rightly so). Male being sexually harassed however, very few people will care or take it seriously.

    A lot of the posts are a classic "victims fault".
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    Last edited by Liam_Harper; 06-27-2018 at 04:51 AM.

  8. #28
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    Leave the "movement" at the login screen.

    Blacklist and move on.
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  9. #29
    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Unfortunately you probably shouldn't have mentioned this.

    Female being sexually harassed, people will defend her (and rightly so). Male being sexually harassed, very few people will care or take it seriously.
    I personally wouldn't call what happened to me harassment... but I've seen it happen to others... and the fact that it was so "in my face" even as a male got me wondering... the fact that nobody even talks about it beyond "it's just a game" is baffling... people throw a fit when it comes to Asahi treating yotsutsu like a piece of meat yet are willing to shrug it off when it's real people involved... I'm sure it would be funny if this were to happen to your mothers/sisters/gfs/wives/daughters... cuz it's just a game afterall...
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  10. #30
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    Masahiro Kido
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Unfortunately you probably shouldn't have mentioned this.

    Female being sexually harassed, people will defend her (and rightly so). Male being sexually harassed however, very few people will care or take it seriously.

    A lot of the posts are a classic "victims fault".

    Females can harass males too, and most of the time it doesn't have to be sexual. On one hand, females being harassed is very real and should be taken seriously but on the other hand, females can play the "victim card" and falsely accuse a male of harassing them and 9/10 people will believe the female over the male cause of culture norms. But of course, most stories about males being harassed by females will go unreported or unnoticed by the public cause it isn't news worthy, or like you said, no one would care or take them seriously, especially in the #MeToo era.



    Even innocent males can be subject to females harassing or threatening them. Like if a female tried to seduce a male and the male wasn't interested in her, the female could play the "female in distress card" and falsely accuse the male of sexual harassment, even if it's false, the male would be accused of a crime he didn't commit and his life would be over.


    Females have their innate "get out of jail free card" for these types of things. I'm not shaming females, cause I know sexual harassment can and does happen, but as a male myself, I can point out the double standards and culture norms about these issues.


    /2 cents
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    Last edited by Usho; 06-27-2018 at 05:07 AM.

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