Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
I'm on primal, and it's pretty easy to tell which pfs are for ultimate since they are the only locked duties I have. Its rare that I see more than 3 or 4 for the entire data center; sometimes there isn't any up at all. And some of those are just "recruit me" pfs. I think sebazy you kind of are in a bubble about this; I mean, even for savage you barely have one page of pfs total at offtimes, and I've almost never seen the pf hit 3 or 4 pages for everything.

I mean, argue for ultimate its cool, but not many people overall are or can do it. In fact I kind of think raiding in general is undersubscribed.
I'm on primal as well. All of the raiders I know on primal are working on uwu and I personally know of 3 groups on primal who have cleared it already.
You're right that it is not on pf much, but that is not indicative as to how many people here are doing it. Most are not crazy enough to actually pug it. Most of what you will see in pf are people forming up to create dedicated groups to clear this thing.
There is one well known raider who is very dedicated and does pug ultimate religiously, but he has the patience of a saint. But even he was able to get to the end of ucob purely pugging, and he is doing it again for uwu. This is nonviable for most of the raiding population however. It is vastly easier to join or form a group for a month to get it down, and that is what you are seeing. Even pf recruitments are rare since most people use r/ffxivRecrutment, the balance discord, or various other recruitment discords as their primary way to recruit.

Please take your fallacy of "if I don't see it, it must not exist" elsewhere.