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    But nothing you said here justify content for 1 or even less % of playerbase. I'd even say 1 ultimate per expansion is enough, 2 was too much. And you all got greedy and want more its disgusting. You have all savages to farm and sell, now you also get ultimate to get how many ppl take for it? Around 300$ per clear, good bisuness, raiders? Ultimate is cancer and all current stuff around confirms it.

    And designers of Ultimate should help work on more accessable content for more playerbase, more versions of raids, and many others things they can do while not wasting time for 1% of whiny elitists who always want more and only for them cuz other stuff is too boring and casual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDkiki View Post
    But nothing you said here justify content for 1 or even less % of playerbase. I'd even say 1 ultimate per expansion is enough, 2 was too much. And you all got greedy and want more its disgusting. You have all savages to farm and sell, now you also get ultimate to get how many ppl take for it? Around 300$ per clear, good bisuness, raiders? Ultimate is cancer and all current stuff around confirms it.

    And designers of Ultimate should help work on more accessable content for more playerbase, more versions of raids, and many others things they can do while not wasting time for 1% of whiny elitists who always want more and only for them cuz other stuff is too boring and casual.
    What a sad small world you live in. They have designed accessible content for struggling players like you though. It's called Botany. Knock yourself out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDkiki View Post
    I'd even say 1 ultimate per expansion is enough, 2 was too much. And you all got greedy and want more its disgusting. You have all savages to farm and sell, now you also get ultimate to get how many ppl take for it? Around 300$ per clear, good bisuness, raiders? Ultimate is cancer and all current stuff around confirms it.
    Care to clarify your 'Ultimate is cancer and all current stuff around confirms it' point?

    Again, if you're buying into the idea that only the very 'elitist of the elite' take part in Ultimate, you are sorely mistaken and I've got hours upon hours of recordings of enjoyable PFs I've done in there to confirm that. We don't want more, we want what we were promised.

    Quote Originally Posted by DDkiki View Post
    And designers of Ultimate should help work on more accessable content for more playerbase, more versions of raids, and many others things they can do while not wasting time for 1% of whiny elitists who always want more and only for them cuz other stuff is too boring and casual.
    So you failed to read or understand a thing I said in my previous post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Again, if you're buying into the idea that only the very 'elitist of the elite' take part in Ultimate, you are sorely mistaken and I've got hours upon hours of recordings of enjoyable PFs I've done in there to confirm that.
    I'm on primal, and it's pretty easy to tell which pfs are for ultimate since they are the only locked duties I have. Its rare that I see more than 3 or 4 for the entire data center; sometimes there isn't any up at all. And some of those are just "recruit me" pfs. I think sebazy you kind of are in a bubble about this; I mean, even for savage you barely have one page of pfs total at offtimes, and I've almost never seen the pf hit 3 or 4 pages for everything.

    I mean, argue for ultimate its cool, but not many people overall are or can do it. In fact I kind of think raiding in general is undersubscribed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    I mean, even for savage you barely have one page of pfs total at offtimes, and I've almost never seen the pf hit 3 or 4 pages for everything.
    While I understand your perspective virtually everyone I know who does Savage and everyone I know who does Ultimate does it as a pre-made group, I don't think PF is very representative of the number of people doing the content. That would be like saying "I don't see alot of PFs up for Expert roulette, must be dead," when people are just entering into it without using PF.

    Quote Originally Posted by DDkiki View Post
    Ultimate is cancer and all current stuff around confirms it.
    Calling something cancer is a bold claim... care to back it up with literally any proof?

    I've seen good and bad things spring from Ultimate. I've seen a few personal conflicts but nothing that couldn't be resolved. I've seen people's interest in the game be reignited as well though. To call something that's been such a breath of fresh air for a game that's getting stale for many of it's long time players cancer seems really stupid and uninformed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    I think sebazy you kind of are in a bubble about this; I mean, even for savage you barely have one page of pfs total at offtimes, and I've almost never seen the pf hit 3 or 4 pages for everything.

    I mean, argue for ultimate its cool, but not many people overall are or can do it. In fact I kind of think raiding in general is undersubscribed.
    Perhaps, I’m fortunate enough to be well known and typically get asked to cover for a number of groups healers. This no doubt pads the number of pugs and raids I do outside of my own static. I’m at work at the mo so I can’t have a look at how healthy PF is on Chaos. I’ll have a nose later at peak tho.

    I do agree that raiding is typically under subscribed in this game though. Looking back to the likes of Everquest, you’d often see entire expansions built around raid content with the rest of the content being a bunch of new leveling zones to link it ll together. Oh how things have changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDkiki View Post
    you all got greedy and want more its disgusting.
    Quote Originally Posted by DDkiki View Post
    Ultimate is cancer and all current stuff around confirms it.
    Quote Originally Posted by DDkiki View Post
    while not wasting time for 1% of whiny elitists
    But remember, kids: raiders are the toxic ones around here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    But remember, kids: raiders are the toxic ones around here!
    Its me who demand more content only for myself and look upside down on other players, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDkiki View Post
    Its me who demand more content only for myself and look upside down on other players, right?
    Quote Originally Posted by DDkiki View Post
    And designers of Ultimate should help work on more accessable content for more playerbase, more versions of raids, and many others things they can do while not wasting time for 1% of whiny elitists who always want more and only for them cuz other stuff is too boring and casual.
    I mean, did you or did you not just ask for “more accessible content” over Ultimate per this quote?

    Everything in this game is accessible save for 1 piece of content. More versions of raids? We already have story mode and Savage. What other modes would there be? Harder dungeons? I’d love that, but the rest of the playerbase would not. Take a look at Pharos Sirius and the original Amdapor Keep. More trials? Well, people complain that Nidhogg, Shinryu, and Tsukuyomi story modes being “too hard” to be MSQ trials, so I suppose that’s also out.

    And are you not “looking upside down on other players” with comments like the ones I quoted above? You aren’t any better with comments like that than the supposed “whiny elitists” you have hijacked this thread to berate, I’m sorry to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDkiki View Post
    Its me who demand more content only for myself and look upside down on other players, right?
    Yes, yes you are, as someone who disdain pvp and won't run ultimate I find offensive the idea of asking for less content to ppl even more so to ppl who honestly have gotten less and less
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