Would you all like to see something beyond S-Rank Hunts?

[Kaliesto]

I think it is safe to say every hunting group can pretty much curb stomp every single A and S rank, the mechanics are pretty much trivialized unless you're a small hunting group. So my proposal is this..would it be nice to see a new rank of monsters called U-Ranks? U meaning Ultimate Rank Monsters.

Basically maybe have them on par to Extreme bosses?

I don't mind if anyone here disagrees with the idea, just thought hunts have been really trivialized.

[AppleJinx]

Hunts are supposed to be easy, accessible, and reward welfare currencies for the casual players to catch up.

[Canadane]

Hunts are supposed to be easy, accessible, and reward welfare currencies for the casual players to catch up.

Are they, though?

[RiyahArp]

Are they, though?

considering you can easily just solo single leveling and level 70 mobs for roughly the same as a S-rank, yes.

Also, can we please stop with the "i want hard stuff" all the time? Do you really want a harder hunt than an s-rank when the game barely can render 50 people fighting it, and will reduce the draw distance to the point where you can't even heal people a little away from you? Does nobody here remember launch ixion and lagging so hard you vanished when dead? I mean come on already.

[Vhailor]

considering you can easily just solo single leveling and level 70 mobs for roughly the same as a S-rank, yes.

Also, can we please stop with the "i want hard stuff" all the time? Do you really want a harder hunt than an s-rank when the game barely can render 50 people fighting it, and will reduce the draw distance to the point where you can't even heal people a little away from you? Does nobody here remember launch ixion and lagging so hard you vanished when dead? I mean come on already.

Having difficult stuff doesn't mean having large-scale, throw-more-people-at-it stuff. At least to me.

Also, as an aside, the draw-distance issue really shouldn't exist. I struggle with the idea that players should shape content requests around SE being so fucking stupid so as to not prioritize party member and mob rendering before any surrounding person. There should never be an inability to Cure, Raise, or otherwise target party members, whether you're the only ones in a map or joined in with over 100 other players wailing on a FATE like Ixion.

[RiyahArp]

\Also, as an aside, the draw-distance issue really shouldn't exist.

Unless you are programmer with access to their code, you can't say that. Any game with a decent level of detail is going to struggle with this. Games like Dynasty warriors exist in flat featureless arenas, and barely render half the players most MMOs try to. FFXI's TOAU city defense was just in a single small zone and still struggled to render more than a handful of players onscreen. When I played Aion, it had the same problem. Hell, EVE has to use something called Time dilation, in which huge fleet battles are lagged out for an hour just so they can exist. It's not an easy problem to fix, and games that do have a lot of people tend to be single player and render small variations of one enemy at at time.

[Squintina]

The reason S ranks are easy is because we get stronger.

The Stormblood S ranks certainly weren't as easy on 4.0 or 4.1. I remember seeing bodies hit the floor for that tomestone-looking S rank even when we had a ton of people. Now? Not so much, it dies too quickly because our ilvl's gone way up.

So I don't think we need a new rank..because the same thing will happen: we'll get stronger as the incoming patches gear us and be able to beat them with ease.

When a new expansion is released, with all new S ranks, we'll have the difficulty again for a little while.

That being said, while I don't think we need a new rank, I certainly wouldn't complain if they did add one, or if they released new S ranks mid-expansion that expect us to have higher ilvls than when the expansion first started.

[Kaliesto]

Good point made.

[Moonfish]

I fail to see how these U-rank monsters would be a real challenge. You know people would throw bodies at it until it died.

[Kaliesto]

I fail to see how these U-rank monsters would be a real challenge. You know people would throw bodies at it until it died.

Well best way to counter that kind of abuse is that once the hunt fails, and he resets all HP he will disappear until next reset.

Also have a invisible arena ring to keep dead players out.