So about Summoner...

[Megguido]

Also, mobility? It's mobility as the core reason smn > blm? I think it's clear who lacks experience in this argument between us, and I'll give you a hint: it's you.

But hey, it's nice you messed up and admitted we're right by acknowledging these fights are far more catered to smn than blm. So thank you for finally agreeing that there's a problem.

Isn't mobility that makes SMN more suited to current savage and ultimate content ? Isn't the content "catered" more for SMN than BLM because it requires you to move ?

Also I don't get why you two are fighting like kids trying to argue who's dad is the best. "But muh DPS should be at the top at all times and SMN deals as much as me and they have TONS of utility". And yet you compare that to NIN and DRG.

First, SMN's party buffs are nowhere near NIN, DRG or BRD's level, but their personnal DPS is higher. A Trick Attack alone can bring more than 900 rDPS, DRG can bring around 1200 rDPS with two physical ranged. BRD's also around 1000 rDPS. Now if you consider all these raid buffs and you combine them with personnal DPS, you'll notice that SMN isn't the only one doing more DPS than a BLM. BRD, DRG, NIN, MNK, even MCH, contribute more damage than a BLM. Then, the difference between BLM and all the other jobs I listed isn't so huge it makes BLM unplayable at higher levels. Please consider that RDM's personnal+raid DPS is still lower than BLM. And yet they have much more ultimate coil clears than BLM for example.