Realistic 5.0 Jobs

[Talraen]

A lot of the suggestions about chemist and dancer are interesting, but impractical. Consider the implications of making a healer without MP: Lucid Dreaming would be considerably less useful as a role action, just shedding hate. Refresh, the Ewer, and other MP restores would suddenly not be as useful if you had a certain type of healer in your party.

Then there's this stuff about multi-role jobs, or prestige jobs... guys, what you're asking for is not a change to this game, it's an entirely different game. Which is fine, maybe they should wrap up the story and start working on a new game. Given all the complaints on the forums about how stale this one has gotten, wouldn't that be the logical thing to do? I don't understand why people want them to change everything that makes FFXIV FFXIV.

[theNeonFrequency]

[QUOTE=Talraen;4696339]A lot of the suggestions about chemist and dancer are interesting, but impractical. Consider the implications of making a healer without MP: Lucid Dreaming would be considerably less useful as a role action, just shedding hate. Refresh, the Ewer, and other MP restores would suddenly not be as useful if you had a certain type of healer in your party.

i wouldn't say that it doesn't use mp more like how a paladin has moves that us mp and ones that us tp the chemist would have some low level heals that used mp but the potions would require mp ( magic infusion for story purposes) and those would be the main heals although i still think it would work better as a support class witless potent heals and focus more on buffs and debuffs

[kikix12]

Consider the implications of making a healer without MP: Lucid Dreaming would be considerably less useful as a role action, just shedding hate. Refresh, the Ewer, and other MP restores would suddenly not be as useful if you had a certain type of healer in your party.

The people that suggest a healer without MP suggest a completely broken class for another reason. Those are the sorts that suggest a healer that uses inventory.

Others want to see a dancer or chemist but know that they will use the existing resources. And out of those, I really don't think anyone is saying that they shouldn't use MP at all. Rather that they want a non-caster. There is no issue with using MP for non-spell abilities, thematically. They may be called spells, and that's fine, but they are not spells. Dark Knight is an example of such an MP user. The MP represents negative emotions of the dark knight, not magic. For Dancer it may represent their charisma or will to bring change with their dance. For chemist it can represent the "fuel" for whatever excuse they have for unlimited potions.


However, both would use MP and TP depending on the ability.