Thread: Realistic 5.0 Jobs

Originally Posted by kikix12

A chemist would be nothing but a flavor. Sure, there are mechanic ideas of "mixing" stuff that are good, but it still would take items out of thin air just for the sake of not being...useless. And use MP or TP as resources for balance purposes.

Pretty much this.. Even DNC would require a mix of both for balance, although both jobs use only TP

Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

We got a melee dps and a magic caster dps in storm blood. Very high chance we will get a tank and a healer before we get another dps, of which if we do, it should be a ranged physical dps (like Bard or Machinist).

That said, tank is unknown, healer could be Geomancer, ranged physical dps could be a Dancer/Dirvish using Chakrams and thrown weapons. I can't imagine them adding another dps though in 5.0 considering how there's 3 healers, 3 ranks, but like 10 dps jobs.

They'd add a DPS most likely. Just adding a tank/healer wouldn't break up the 70-80 rush enough for the servers to handle :P

Geomancer has been all over the map through the various games, though I always liked the FFT implementation the most. Then when XI GEO happened, RUN actually ended up being a lot closer to what I'd hoped for GEO to be. Since it would likely be taking the role of healer in XIV, I've been thinking about how you could spin it.
- Healer that uses melee attacks for damage instead of magic. Uses poles like Tactics. Meant to be in close to the fighting instead of hanging back.
- Debuff attack that changes the result depending on whether you hit it from the front, sides, or back. Cardinal Assault maybe? Choose between def down/mdef down/atk down/matk down, but they overwrite each other so pick situationally.
- Mix in a bit of XI. Has auras you toggle like BRD songs, with healer-centric functions. Regen aura, def aura, mdef aura.
- Healing Bell; calls a stationary pet bell, that when you hit rings and does an AoE heal. The potency of the heal gains stacks with every WS hit. Auto-attacks cause far weaker rings and give no stacks.
- Line-based AoE weapon skill, where the player slams the pole down on the ground causing a dirt shockwave. Slightly longer reach than standard cone AoEs. The idea would be that if you want to heal and damage, you can put the bell between yourself and the enemy, and use this to hit both.
- Some panic button style AoE healing for more wide-range general purpose recovery.
- Some terrain-based weapon skills of whatever flavor. It would be too much trouble to go through and specify what type of terrain exists everywhere already, so the best compromise I can think of would be strikes that evoke terrain effects. Like one that makes a mini volcano burst up, one that makes a geyser erupt from the ground, one to make tangling brambles sprout, and so on.

The fact that the first geomancer in Othard's history was also a renowned warrior makes me think that the discipline may indeed originally have had more of a physically involved aspect to it as opposed to just being a bell-waving WHM clone.

The geomancer you meet in the AST questline more or less states that the practice is just a shadow of what it used to be in the olden days.

i think if they did away with the class system they could really spice up the game make thief its own class and maybe make an archer a ranger instead of becoming a bard. or on the other end they could have prestige like classes paladin---> into divine knight dark knight into hell knight red mage to spell fencer and machinist to sniper to give a few examples. btw time mage plz time mage lol

Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

100% hoping for BLU tank and DNC healer. Chemist could be interesting too, but only if they don't relay on some dumb "you have to keep potions in your inventory" gimmick.

but that would be dope maybe not that u have to have them but maybe its like an ability almost like atherflow stacks you can use an ability to craft the potions and this requires mp you would then still be able to heal the party even if you dont have any mp left because you made the potions they could even make elixirs for mp and hp regen or ether for mp regen it would be dope. tear gas for blind goo for slows nitroglycerine for AOE damage or something like that

Originally Posted by Rysir

Garlean chemist can definitely work and while having no limited item resource.

Use the same lore mechanic that Machinist uses: Aetheric converter lunch box that builds chemical charges which is spent to make potions and such. Go full into The half life 2 rechargeable medkits on it.

maybe make engineer a new disciple of the hand since we are going to Garlamode

Originally Posted by savageink

I'd prefer a 2 gun duelist like they've been teasing me with since I first walked into Limsa Lominsa. :P

gunmage lol upgrade from machinist

Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Chemist would be a better option for a non caster healer. It just makes more sense than dancer. How would dancer honestly heal without some form of magic?

dancer would fit in if they added a fourth role for support then they could give the bards archer type skills back to the archer and make that class into a ranger and make the bard a legit support class along with dancer chemist and time mage chemist would be support because it could be like a secondary healer that relies on potions for heals buffs and debuffs Dancer uses dances (of course) to buff and debuff and time mage uses spells like haste and stopa to and even rewind to heal back a portion of health again these heals wouldn't be as good as WHM SCH OR AST but they would allow for a bit of extra help and while the 3 main healers now would have much more healing potency these supports could offer more damage but not as much as traditional DPS thus allow a spot for other super obscure classes