Lupin - make it a playable race!

[Alleo]

Who in his right mind seriously want a race as bland as those Lupin ? '-'

I have nothing against Viera but how would they for example be better? (For me they just look like another human race with bunny features) In the end its not necessarily the Lupin that I want but at least something different. The first versions of the Au Ra would have been perfect for me but they made them another really humanoid race. Viera like the one that people wants are really humanoid too. If they cant give us different, then a third tribe with each race ore deeper customizations would be nice.

Sure, let's go full-on anthro in FFXIV. Not like it wouldn't make sense with all the prejudice toward beast tribes that actually resemble humans a little more. Ignoring the "foot" argument that is ages old, why would they make Lupin a playable race and not the Ananta when they're basically the same amount of beast, just flipped (more beast in the upper half [lupin], more beast in the bottom half [ananta])? Yes, they're seen as citisens in Doma. Does that mean they work for the Lore all together without retconning certain elements? If you consider the story from the moment you were on that wagon, the answer would be "No."


P.S. This is not WoW, so I don't see why you would make the comparison.

The only thing that we see different from Lupins and the other races are their heads. They wear normal shoes, normal clothes. Give them a hood that hides their head and you would not see them as beast tribe, while most of the real beast tribes (we are not even sure if they fall under that label) have even different body forms.

Their feets are also not really arguments since they are wearing normal shoes. And lets not forget that the feet were a problem for the Viera race too (one of the reason why SE did not introduce them as playable until now) that never hindered people from wanting that race either.

We have seen Lupins in Doma as normal villagers, as soldiers in the Garlean army, as visitor to Eorzea (and honestly there will be a time that people realize that he is not wearing a costume) and at least one Lupin with the one group of Eureka. (And if I have to consider the story from point of the wagon I would say no to Au Ra too because at that time none existed yet my character is one right now and nobody would bat an eye if you start as one too even if they at that time are barely even in the story. Any new race will have to bend our belief because they simply did not exist in the states before they were created and are suddenly there and accepted)

I gave the example with the Worgen to show that you can have braids and stuff without being not fantasy.

In the end I just want either more options for the exiting race or another new race that is much more different to the existing ones otherwise I just dont see a reason for them to exist. (But thats just my opinion and I know that there is a much higher chance that we will get Viera or something else simple but that doesnt mean that I wont post my view on what I wish to have)

Edit:

@ArcaneCarbuncle (I am not going to use all the sentences or this would be getting way out of hand.

The problem with racism is that the WoL is completely out of it. You will always be threated as a simple outsider in Gridania no matter the race.

And how would Viera work from the start when we might only meet them in Dalmasca which is part of the SB and thus far away from the start too? I mean both Lupin and Viera have their places in the world so they would not be coming out of nowhere so next to maybe the Lupin being count as beast tribe (which is debatable) they have the exact same story problem.

I meant with beastly that even the Viera is not completely human. They are different from the normal Hyur thus they should grab the attention. Au Ra were said to be from dragons or even void sents just because of their look. Yet none fear them, none react to it. And if for example a Viera WoL would sit in the carriage at the beginning, shouldnt they at least react a bit? Yet with a high chance they will just ignore it too. (And lets not forget that they would also clash later with the story because right now we have never seen a Viera before so if they are introduces in the Ivalice race we would probably be shocked or surprised..how will that be if you are a Viera yourself or if Viera are suddenly common in Eorzea?)

We do not know if there is a trade between Dalmasca and Eorzea but its in the hand of Garlemald for at least 30 years, so any trades should have been gone for quite some time. Yet if they had trades for so long, how can there be no Viera in at least Limsa? (The city states with quite a bit of beast tribes running around) Even here they will have to bend the story again and try to make us believe that they are somehow already known.

And who can say that they are not already trading with Doma at the time that we get the new race thus have contact with Lupins? Again Viera and Lupin have the same problem (and Au Ra too) that they are not existing until the expansion demands it. They could change some bits of the story enough or simply ignore it (like with the Au Ra).

Garleans have threatened the Ananta even though they never summoned a primal either. Varis himself has said that the beast tribes have to go and would have probably killed even the good Vanu Vanu if we did not come to their aid, so no the lupins remain the only example of really working with them and having them in their army. Next to having them being the only beastly race that are living directly with the villagers and wearing their clothes and are important just shows that they are different enough from most beast tribes. Thus as long as we dont get the facts ingame we simply cant just assume that they are truly beast tribes and not just another race like the Au Ra or Lalas.