Quote Originally Posted by ArcaneCarbuncle View Post
Well, to me, a Lore argument is much more valid than trying to excuse things that'd make no sense by stating that other items of questionable canoninity are stupid.
Just because some things are dumb doesn't mean everything has to be.
But to each their own.
Then let's make sense of it. Why are Beastmen not allowed into the cities (mainly Ul'dah. Gridania I think only have issues with the Ixal and Limsa Lominsa don't seem to care all too much. Goblins, Qiqirn and Mamool Ja are present within the city)? From what I can recall, it is mainly because they can summon Primals (and once tempered, Beastmen became a bigger threat in one way or another) and before Shiva and Phoenix, only Beastmen had summoned them. That gave weight to arguments on why Beast-like races couldn't be playable. Now that we know (very well) that anyone can summon a Primal (Thordan and Shinryu especially), that argument shouldn't hold too much weight (and again, Garleans had Lupin their army).

That just leaves story progression and the beginning... and thinking about that makes me realise just how horribly SE wrote themselves into a corner. I don't believe Au Ra were even treated slightly differently at all in their cutscenes until HW and only in Ishgard(?). On the off chance Lupin and Viera wind up being playable, I feel SE will need to make a new intro for those two races (and maybe even Au Ra as well, since they're all natives from Othard). Otherwise it's just jarring to have either of them become playable and not one Eorzean NPC batting an eye lid as to why this wolfman or weird-footed bunny-eared person is interacting with them.

Have them start in a low level Kugane and then have them go to Eorzea somehow... or make them only start in Limsa Lominsa.