Lack of content on patch release

[Remedi]

If you want to talk about 4.3 by deliberating removing a part of the patch cycle to prove a point I'm afraid you are having a disonest conversation.
I already spoken my mind about staggered content about how I don't like it, how companies use it as a way to combat content drought and about my belief that ppl would still be complaining about lack of content because most ppl use their own opinion about what IS content, well I don't agree with that wiew, I don't like pvp, I don't partecipate in it but I still consider it game content.

The whole 4.3 vs 3.1 diabtribe was born because there are ppl that consider 4.3 worse than 3.1 while it's not true, you say that after the weekly reset things you have nothing else to do? There was nothing on reset week on 3.1 at all after 5 months we deserved much better, there's no patch in the game that comes even closer to that moment in the game and hopefully will never happen again

[Miyafuji]

If you want to talk about 4.3 by deliberating removing a part of the patch cycle to prove a point I'm afraid you are having a disonest conversation.

You're completely missing the topic of this thread. This thread is about the content we've been provided on release of a major patch, and the fact that we are receiving the actual bulk of the content not on the day of the patch but months down the line. Eureka being delayed I completely understand but why delay Heaven on High when many people were excited for it for patch 4.3 especially with the showcasing of Heaven on High along with all the details that was announced just before the patch too.

I also don't think people are saying that 4.3 isn't going to be bad once its content has been released, I personally can't wait to grind Heaven on High and the new Eureka once it eventually comes out. The fact is that this patch is incredibly staggered and so drawn out yet some people defend this.

The whole 4.3 vs 3.1 diabtribe was born because there are ppl that consider 4.3 worse than 3.1 while it's not true.

Literally no one said this in this thread.

Unfortunately the decided to release it all in a trickle over the next 3 months. God damnit SE... The excuse I recall hearing was "we dont want to overload the players, if they have too many things to do they wont be able to get to all the content." Please OVERLOAD US! I would rather sit down to FFXIV and wonder, "where do i start?" not "well, i did my dailies out of obligation, now what?" Its getting frustrating paying for a sub only to get a casual week at most out of new content before everything feels like a chore. Its not that they couldnt release it all at the same time, its an intentional tricking of content to give the illusion of content injection. These X.X1 X.X5 and X.X6 patches should be for QOL and hotfixes not content injections.

I honestly couldn't agree more. I miss how the X.Xx patches would include new glamour options, new housing items, emotes, some job adjustments and additional things to do. Instead, the mogstation seems to be where most of these resources have gone.

[CorbinDallas]

Literally no one said this in this thread.

For me this latest patch has been the most lacklustre patch to date

:thinking:

[Miyafuji]

:thinking:

And where exactly did I say that patch 4.3 was worse than patch 3.1? Seriously, you point more accusations with no proof or actual discussion in an attempt to derail the thread, but sure try and take my posts out of context by quoting specific lines.
I've said it about 3 times now and I'll say it again because clearly you lack the function to comprehend and are stuck in your own little bubble: 4.3 is lacking content to do on release, which won't be the case months down the line when we get the more anticipated content.

And I said that if you are only talking about the delay on content I can agree that it's annoying even though I understand why it's done and that some ppl would have complained regardless.

The problem as Corbin has said you've said this is the lackluster patch to date and imho that is wrong you cannot whitewash what 3.1 was for the game. CorbinDallas said that ppl if you played during that time you wouldn't really say that there's no content or that it's the worst patch, yet ppl challenged him on this notion and btw I've enjoyed DIadem and Verminion for what they were, yet I know full well their problem and why they were a failure.

It's pretty clear to me that you and Corbin are just picking at straws at this point based on a single word, even though you say that you are agreeing to the exact thing I'm saying which shows that you aren't even reading the responses of myself and others. Again, no one said 3.1 was good or that 4.3 is worse than 3.1 and you are clearly missing my explanation to the point where this discussion is going in circles. I also agree with what you have said about Diadem and LoV.

I'll put it in bold so the both of you can see it: Yes, I am talking about the delay of content and no, this won't be the worst patch to date. I don't know how I can convey this any clearer to be honest.

Oh and btw you are kinda late with this complaint because it's since 2.2 that x.x5-x.x8 patch have started having extra content

The extra content wasn't the biggest part of the patch though which is my gripe.

[Squintina]

And where exactly did I say that patch 4.3 was worse than patch 3.1?

From the very first post:

For me this latest patch has been the most lacklustre patch to date

Well..technically you did say it. Maybe you weren't around then and you meant the most lackluster patch you've encountered, but I can see in that sentence why some people felt the need to defend this as not being the worst one to date.

[Miyafuji]

From the very first post:


Well..technically you did say it. Maybe you weren't around then and you meant the most lackluster patch you've encountered, but I can see in that sentence why some people felt the need to defend this as not being the worst one to date.

Oh boy, I'm just going to edit the main post because this is actually getting boring having the same argument come up which I literally addressed in the post you quoted.

Yes that woken mechanic really has taken me for a loop for the crazy possibilities we can achieve with that, hopefully the dev team realizes it.

This mechanic has given me high hopes for the future honestly, I really hope its brought over into other content such as eureka or as you said, in dungeons.

[Squintina]

Oh boy, I'm just going to edit the main post because this is actually getting boring having the same argument come up which I literally addressed in the post you quoted.

Probably a good idea.

Personally I don't care about that, it seems very semantics to the rest of the thread's points - I just wanted you to know where it was coming from.

[Remedi]

And where exactly did I say that patch 4.3 was worse than patch 3.1? Seriously, you point more accusations with no proof or actual discussion in an attempt to derail the thread, but sure try and take my posts out of context by quoting specific lines.
I've said it about 3 times now and I'll say it again because clearly you lack the function to comprehend and are stuck in your own little bubble: 4.3 is lacking content to do on release, which won't be the case months down the line when we get the more anticipated content.



It's pretty clear to me that you and Corbin are just picking at straws at this point based on a single word, even though you say that you are agreeing to the exact thing I'm saying which shows that you aren't even reading the responses of myself and others. Again, no one said 3.1 was good or that 4.3 is worse than 3.1 and you are clearly missing my explanation to the point where this discussion is going in circles. I also agree with what you have said about Diadem and LoV.

I'll put it in bold so the both of you can see it: Yes, I am talking about the delay of content and no, this won't be the worst patch to date. I don't know how I can convey this any clearer to be honest.



The extra content wasn't the biggest part of the patch though which is my gripe.

As squintina have told you that was the gripes of some and frankly I was told that 3.1 was better by somebody else in another thread, I already said that I don't like split of content, the only words I've used for it were to explain why it's happening and that there are some ppl that wanted to have this split coming, but I largely don't agree with them because as ppl have pointed out I'd rather have to choose what to do than to be guided.
However I find that this kind of topics usually come from only one point of wiew, as some have pointed out they still have much to do because of limited time of playing as such I find that their wiew is not wrong either, this is why I said earlier in the thread that both wiews are correct

unrelated: can we stop with demonizing Ultimate pls? First of all it's about 10% of the ppl having access to it and not the 1% that is perhaps the clear rate, but even there's nothing stopping ppl in partecipating in savage or ultimate. Ppl choose not to which is miles different

[Miyafuji]

I already said that I don't like split of content, the only words I've used for it were to explain why it's happening and that there are some ppl that wanted to have this split coming, but I largely don't agree with them because as ppl have pointed out I'd rather have to choose what to do than to be guided.
However I find that this kind of topics usually come from only one point of wiew, as some have pointed out they still have much to do because of limited time of playing as such I find that their wiew is not wrong either, this is why I said earlier in the thread that both wiews are correct

unrelated: can we stop with demonizing Ultimate pls? First of all it's about 10% of the ppl having access to it and not the 1% that is perhaps the clear rate, but even there's nothing stopping ppl in partecipating in savage or ultimate. Ppl choose not to which is miles different

I agree that both views are correct and that some people dislike having the freedom of choice of what they should do per patch and that there are others who haven't yet caught up. But I disagree with the punishment of players who want to pick what they want to do first and decide for themselves as to what they want to do.
I personally like being able to have a selection of things to do which helps provide the mmo feel of "what shall I do today?" not "what am I forced to do today?"

I also agree with you about ultimate, its high end content that not many people may partake in directly sure, but it's still interesting to watch the progression and the mechanics of the fight.

Probably a good idea.

Personally I don't care about that, it seems very semantics to the rest of the thread's points - I just wanted you to know where it was coming from.

I mean I would have thought it was pretty clear from the initial post and the title of the thread but I guess people misinterpret.

[Remedi]

I personally like being able to have a selection of things to do which helps provide the mmo feel of "what shall I do today?" not "what am I forced to do today?" .

That's a problem for me too, what I wanted to say it's I understand why it's done this way and why some ppl would like this but I still don't like what they are doing after all of that, frankly I don't like weekly caps on not raid content either, I would like to be able to recreate the doman enclave at my own pace for example