Been running Ridorana Lighthouse the whole week and...

[Alleo]

Make a party with friends.

Problem solved.

That could have been done before if you wanted gear with the old system. And on top of that it did not mess up peoples chances on rolls.

I really like the greed option. I can go in playing the job I'm most comfortable playing and still get an equal chance to loot for gear for alt jobs. As for people who are upset because they have trouble gearing... there are so many options for gearing in this game. You can upgrade crafting gear and weapon to 360 just by using creation tombstone or you can just buy mendacity gear which is also 360, and can be upgraded to 370 with Lighthouse/Rabanastre. You can get a full set of 350 gear on Sigmascape normal with no weekly loot lockouts now. You can go to Eureka and get 355 weapon and 350 gear. The 24 man is not the only place you can get gear. I'm new to this game so if I know this, no excuse for you veterans to not know this.

Then why not gear up your job that you are seemingly not even comfortable in 24 man raids through other means? I mean if you dont want to run them there you will probably not feel comfortable in ex/savage runs either, so gearing them through dungeons should be enough right? And if you dont want to run them with that job too why need an upgrade at all?

You also had the chance to get gear for other jobs and still play the one you like before with need. You just needed to be lucky that the jobs that could need on it did not roll on it. At least that old system did not hurt those that needed to gear their main job while still giving the rest a chance to get other gear..

[Penthea]

That could have been done before if you wanted gear with the old system. And on top of that it did not mess up peoples chances on rolls.

I really hate the "make a party with friends if you want to get loot" argument. Because yea, f**k you if you're a new player, are new to the server, a returning player, have friends that don't always play at the same time or have the misfortune of being unable to find a community you fit in with.

The fact that you need a premade group for Duty Finder content so that the chances on getting loot become realistic just shows how badly broken the greed only system is.

[Seddrinth]

Then why not gear up your job that you are seemingly not even comfortable in 24 man raids through other means? I mean if you dont want to run them there you will probably not feel comfortable in ex/savage runs either, so gearing them through dungeons should be enough right? And if you dont want to run them with that job too why need an upgrade at all?

You also had the chance to get gear for other jobs and still play the one you like before with need. You just needed to be lucky that the jobs that could need on it did not roll on it. At least that old system did not hurt those that needed to gear their main job while still giving the rest a chance to get other gear..

I do raid on alt jobs including savage content and I have geared up alt jobs with the different methods I've mentioned- mendacity, crafted gear/weapons, sigma normal. To me this is just a game and I'm just gearing up for fun. I'm not going to cry if I lose a roll on a piece of gear.

[Penthea]

I'm not going to cry if I lose a roll on a piece of gear.

What gave you the impression that we shed tears when we don't get loot?

[Seddrinth]

What gave you the impression that we shed tears when we don't get loot?

Right because this isn't en entire thread whining about not getting loot. He lost the roll fair and square. Get over it.

[Penthea]

Right because this isn't en entire thread whining about not getting loot. He lost the roll fair and square. Get over it.

So you're telling me that being annoyed about something means you cry? Your emotional spectrum is very limited if this is your experience.

[Awha]

Right because this isn't en entire thread whining about not getting loot. He lost the roll fair and square. Get over it.

So you're telling me that being annoyed about something means you cry? Your emotional spectrum is very limited if this is your experience.

Let us be civil here, we are having a friendly discussion people will be in disagreement but no reason to lash out like that. People took jabs at me so I know how it feels, but no need to act like that, we are all part of the same community.

[Penthea]

Let us be civil here, we are having a friendly discussion people will be in disagreement but no reason to lash out like that. People took jabs at me so I know how it feels, but no need to act like that, we are all part of the same community.

Sorry I couldn't resist showing him how unconstructive his posts are by informing him that he's not the hard man among the crybabies, and that liking any specific loot system doesn't make anyone superior.

[Seddrinth]

Sorry I couldn't resist showing him how unconstructive his posts are by informing him that he's not the hard man among the crybabies, and that liking any specific loot system doesn't make anyone superior.

Unconstructive? I mentioned 4 other alternative paths to gearing in the case that you lose a roll running Lighthouse- mendacity, sigma normal, crafted, eureka... and then all the crybabies started their personal attacks. Scroll up and read. This game has a lot of gearing options. And also, this is a game so don't get so carried away with gear.

[Alleo]

I do raid on alt jobs including savage content and I have geared up alt jobs with the different methods I've mentioned- mendacity, crafted gear/weapons, sigma normal. To me this is just a game and I'm just gearing up for fun. I'm not going to cry if I lose a roll on a piece of gear.

So if you already did that with the need option still there, why exactly is the all greed a better change? It seemingly changes nothing for you because if you use the other jobs in savage too and use all the other methods to gear up you seemingly dont really need the other gear in the raids that much. Which means that it should be a neutral change for you but a bad one for all those that need it to level up their main job because they dont have ex primals, savage or crafted stuff to gear up.

I am really confused by your view.

Also we are not whining..we are giving SE the feedback and show them how far people will use the greed roll and that it messed up the gear for others. Please stop seeing negative feedback as crying or something like that.