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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    Shame that some people use it for trolling but the same could be said for Shirk. I don't think it has to be removed, just remove the player if they are intentionally doing it and causing problems.
    Indeed, when I first saw with my own eyes people trolling others with it, I didn't mind much, even after it was used on me for trolling purpose the very first time it was actually used on me.
    But this time, it was 2 players that had grouped together, that acted like princesses... enough.

    As for role skills, it's completely useless, remove it and it won't hurt anybody : it is just a under alternative for some very occasional situations.
    As for the "I use it to save my sprouts"... please stop, that's just an argument for the sake of giving one.... just do it like we did before : let him die and learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    Yet you made a thread demanding its removal.
    Can't have it both ways..make up your mind.
    You're OP makes it black and white...taking the fence here just makes you look like you didn't think this through.
    The title alone is clear enough of your intent.
    Oh yes..many threads have been made. Tell me - did you bother to read them? I thought so.
    Furthermore - You just contradicted yourself horribly in replying to BluexBird. Make up your mind already!
    You condemn the skill for the "few" instances you report.
    What's next? Demanding removal of Shirk because the Tank decided to dump enmity on you for a mistake?
    Black Mage Aetherrial Manipulation to be banned because they brought a targeted attack to you and knocked you down?
    Yes and I am still asking for its removal, where did u see me change my mind ?
    I didnt think this through ?
    Talk about reading, but did you read my post actually ?
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    King Canadane
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    I have been saved too many times to count is TsuEx as I usually am on the far end of the safe side for meteors.
    Healers that use this properly are a godsend.
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    http://king.canadane.com

  4. #14
    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    Indeed, when I first saw with my own eyes people trolling others with it, I didn't mind much, even after it was used on me for trolling purpose the very first time it was actually used on me.
    But this time, it was 2 players that had grouped together, that acted like princesses... enough.

    As for role skills, it's completely useless, remove it and it won't hurt anybody : it is just a under alternative for some very occasional situations.
    As for the "I use it to save my sprouts"... please stop, that's just an argument for the sake of giving one.... just do it like we did before : let him die and learn.
    Yes..we should remove it based on your one little sorry story...totally rational and perfect argument.
    Condemn a perfectly fine skill because someone get killed over it.

    Yeah I think we've seen enough here.

    File a petition with a GM and move along. This thread is condemned the same as the rest of the "remove rescue" skill threads...to the troll bin.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluexBird View Post
    Also, a healer doesn't need Rescue to troll you. They can choose just to literally not heal you in the fight. You know, as "punishment".
    I've had this happen before. I was the only new player to Dun Scaith (rouletted into it by accident, didn't even know I had it unlocked), and died from this black pit as bard. Healers said I "did something stupid" so they refused to resurrect me until the boss was about 2/3 dead. Every time I proceeded to die after that (I died less than all the other DPS, only about four times while a couple others died maybe 10+ times, one was especially good at dying xD), they made sure to rez me last even if I was waiting the longest, and then kept making me wait. So yeah, healers can "punish" you without Rescue for whatever reason they see "fit."

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    It's pretty useful in the new EX primal. I don't see it used often honestly.
    I also almost never see it used in casual content. I've tried it twice myself as healer, but I found my timing with it was all off and that my rescues weren't actually rescues. :'| But when Rescue is used successfully, I think it has potential to be exceptionally useful...


    I'm sorry you had a shitty healer, OP. :'|
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    Last edited by MOZZYSTAR; 06-06-2018 at 01:13 AM. Reason: Formatting

  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emstidor View Post
    Guess what OP? If he or any other trolling healer wanted you dead, he would've killed you even without Rescue, by just not healing you.

    Your anger is understandable, but misplaced.
    I was a dps, so he wasn't healing me at all already. But I have pots and vercure.
    Also, as soon I was pulling aggro, lucid and diversion, and hate was all going back to... mostly him, since he had to spam benific II on his lowly geared/not using CD/mass pulling tank buddy.
    So out of frustration of me not dying to mechanics, he had to troll me.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    Condemn a perfectly fine skill because someone get killed over it.
    Indeed you need to read before going all emo.
    It's about trolling and harassement. Dont divert the subject to skills or w/e, like I'm a noob and frustrated about something I can't do....
    You're yourself a troll by making me say all kind of nonsense... like I reacted only because of that single particular experience when I'm clearly talking about many encouters, statistics....

    Please stop, you don't know what you're talking about.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I have been saved too many times to count is TsuEx as I usually am on the far end of the safe side for meteors.
    Haha, lucky you.
    As OT, as I was running along the crescent to the safe spot, a healer kept dragging me in the wrong color because he was thinking I wasn't able to make it.
    Had to tell him about lag and apparent/real positions after I died twice to him rescuing me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Healers that use this properly are a godsend.
    But so few !
    Removing it won't handicap them much, don't worry about it lol

    Now think about a healer that think he is good at it, and keeps using it with failure....
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    Last edited by Moogly; 06-06-2018 at 01:26 AM.

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    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    Indeed you need to read before going all emo.
    It's about trolling and harassement. Dont divert the subject to skills or w/e, like I'm a noob and frustrated about something I can't do....
    You're yourself a troll by making me say all kind of nonsense... like I reacted only because of that single particular experience when I'm clearly talking about many encouters, statistics....

    Please stop, you don't know what you're talking about.
    You where saying nonsense from the start.

    I have yet to see anyone actually support your opinion in the first place. And even if you do...they are out numbered...and out gunned.

    Good luck with your tilting windmill attempt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    Good luck with your tilting windmill attempt.
    yea yea, w/e
    Time will tell.
    Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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