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    Ein Vaer
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    It's pretty useful in the new EX primal and helping BRD/MCH since they don't have knockback immunity or gap closers.

    I don't see it used often honestly. It's hard to fit into cross skills with other mandatory choices filling up almost half the slots most of the time so that stops people from slotting it in the first place.

    Shame that some people use it for trolling but the same could be said for Shirk. I don't think it has to be removed, just remove the player if they are intentionally doing it and causing problems.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 06-06-2018 at 12:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    It's pretty useful in the new EX primal and helping BRD/MCH since they don't have knockback immunity or gap closers.

    I don't see it used often honestly. It's hard to fit into cross skills with other mandatory choices filling up almost half the slots most of the time so that stops people from slotting it in the first place.

    Shame that some people use it for trolling but the same could be said for Shirk. I don't think it has to be removed, just remove the player if they are intentionally doing it and causing problems.
    Reasoning its not used is A: it takes a role slot B: its got a 3 minute cooldown..its not like you can use it frequently..which makes the OP's point all the worse for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    Shame that some people use it for trolling but the same could be said for Shirk. I don't think it has to be removed, just remove the player if they are intentionally doing it and causing problems.
    Indeed, when I first saw with my own eyes people trolling others with it, I didn't mind much, even after it was used on me for trolling purpose the very first time it was actually used on me.
    But this time, it was 2 players that had grouped together, that acted like princesses... enough.

    As for role skills, it's completely useless, remove it and it won't hurt anybody : it is just a under alternative for some very occasional situations.
    As for the "I use it to save my sprouts"... please stop, that's just an argument for the sake of giving one.... just do it like we did before : let him die and learn.
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    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    Indeed, when I first saw with my own eyes people trolling others with it, I didn't mind much, even after it was used on me for trolling purpose the very first time it was actually used on me.
    But this time, it was 2 players that had grouped together, that acted like princesses... enough.

    As for role skills, it's completely useless, remove it and it won't hurt anybody : it is just a under alternative for some very occasional situations.
    As for the "I use it to save my sprouts"... please stop, that's just an argument for the sake of giving one.... just do it like we did before : let him die and learn.
    Yes..we should remove it based on your one little sorry story...totally rational and perfect argument.
    Condemn a perfectly fine skill because someone get killed over it.

    Yeah I think we've seen enough here.

    File a petition with a GM and move along. This thread is condemned the same as the rest of the "remove rescue" skill threads...to the troll bin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    Condemn a perfectly fine skill because someone get killed over it.
    Indeed you need to read before going all emo.
    It's about trolling and harassement. Dont divert the subject to skills or w/e, like I'm a noob and frustrated about something I can't do....
    You're yourself a troll by making me say all kind of nonsense... like I reacted only because of that single particular experience when I'm clearly talking about many encouters, statistics....

    Please stop, you don't know what you're talking about.
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    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    Indeed you need to read before going all emo.
    It's about trolling and harassement. Dont divert the subject to skills or w/e, like I'm a noob and frustrated about something I can't do....
    You're yourself a troll by making me say all kind of nonsense... like I reacted only because of that single particular experience when I'm clearly talking about many encouters, statistics....

    Please stop, you don't know what you're talking about.
    You where saying nonsense from the start.

    I have yet to see anyone actually support your opinion in the first place. And even if you do...they are out numbered...and out gunned.

    Good luck with your tilting windmill attempt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    Good luck with your tilting windmill attempt.
    yea yea, w/e
    Time will tell.
    Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    It's pretty useful in the new EX primal and helping BRD/MCH since they don't have knockback immunity or gap closers.

    I don't see it used often honestly. It's hard to fit into cross skills with other mandatory choices filling up almost half the slots most of the time so that stops people from slotting it in the first place.

    Shame that some people use it for trolling but the same could be said for Shirk. I don't think it has to be removed, just remove the player if they are intentionally doing it and causing problems.
    Don't ranged physical have arms length for the same standard knockback immunity? I think all roles have it in one form or another. Though yeah, they don't get to dash around like dancers do.
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