New Racers for Final Fantasy XIV

[lackofwords]

Your pulling it apart pretty much opposite of the point. People arnt tired of having the same race with the same job, with the same objective, in that instance.

I think I understand where you're getting at. If you think of them as "actors", then yes they have the potential of playing any role regardless of what settings they are in. Such as how "humans" are acceptable to appear in many multiple cultural roles. You don't see them as one of the many human cultures and societies... but more as whatever culture it is tied to.

However, these unique races are designed to fit a particular cultural role. Such that they have been pretty much "type-casted" to fit a role for that particular FF universe. They are strongly identify with the role it plays.

Such as when I think viera I think of three things; mist frenzy, attuned to nature, and reclusive society. Now I think the former two might conflict with how FFXIV universe is designed. You can't have a viera going into a frenzy every time it walks up to an aetheryte, you can't have a viera attuned to nature without being a conjurer naturally. (Granted that not all vieras were magic users, but they all had the innate ability to be one. Which is why in the FFTA games they were the only summoners, elementalist and can access other mage type jobs)

Eventually I might be able to forget what a viera was after aggressive re-branding, but even now I'm still having trouble not seeing a roegadyn as a galka. (well this could also be because there's very little cultural background references for races in game)

[Baxter]

I am about to blow your minds. XIV has rolanberries, a noxious invasive from rolanberry fields. A different world.
Blown.

[Gehena]

I think I understand where you're getting at. If you think of them as "actors", then yes they have the potential of playing any role regardless of what settings they are in. Such as how "humans" are acceptable to appear in many multiple cultural roles. You don't see them as one of the many human cultures and societies... but more as whatever culture it is tied to.

However, these unique races are designed to fit a particular cultural role. Such that they have been pretty much "type-casted" to fit a role for that particular FF universe. They are strongly identify with the role it plays.

Such as when I think viera I think of three things; mist frenzy, attuned to nature, and reclusive society. Now I think the former two might conflict with how FFXIV universe is designed. You can't have a viera going into a frenzy every time it walks up to an aetheryte, you can't have a viera attuned to nature without being a conjurer naturally. (Granted that not all vieras were magic users, but they all had the innate ability to be one. Which is why in the FFTA games they were the only summoners, elementalist and can access other mage type jobs)

Eventually I might be able to forget what a viera was after aggressive re-branding, but even now I'm still having trouble not seeing a roegadyn as a galka. (well this could also be because there's very little cultural background references for races in game)

That's one point me and a couple of friends came across while discussing the game. It's either the time the story takes place is after a cultural boom where all the races pretty much united into one common ideal, or the writers for the story did not want to bother with the races and their background for the time being. I feel like this game is merely a continuation of the XI time line, or possibly a different time space set in the same world.

Regardless, I do feel like it is time for a change in scenery and the main reason I want a race like the Viera is because visually I find them appealing and I wouldn't be too concern with the background story so much. As of now I still refer to the races the way I did as in XI, which I'm sure a lot of players do. And feel like SE was just being lazy in the process of recreating a new world.

[Jennestia]

FF XI is a different game too and they reused races so I see no reason why not to use races from other Final Fantasis.

Mostly..because Ivalice is a different world linked with two different game series, FFXI > FFXIV made sense because these are generic races that fits the typical mold of MMO races -- For example Viera has no place in Eorzea, nor does Bangaa.

They mentioned a dragon and demi human race, but they didn't mention it being playable races, for example Dragons clearly have to have some kind of hierarchy to mount up against humans, much like other Beastmen tribes.

[Zezlar]

If they added Viera to this game for 2.0 I would probably have to switch.

[Baxter]

Mostly..because Ivalice is a different world linked with two different game series, FFXI > FFXIV made sense because these are generic races that fits the typical mold of MMO races -- For example Viera has no place in Eorzea, nor does Bangaa.

They mentioned a dragon and demi human race, but they didn't mention it being playable races, for example Dragons clearly have to have some kind of hierarchy to mount up against humans, much like other Beastmen tribes.

No place? All races are all from the same multiverse, sure they have a place. Saying it's alright to port HD XI races because they are both MMOs, but from a different world and not okay to port races from other games in the series because they are offline, is a pretty lame excuse - no offense. If you're going to rob from other games within the series (as xi was a game in the series) you may as well bring back fan favorites.

I am kind of going to swerve a bit off topic here, but maintaining the logic not to dig into past games and completely reinvent the wheel is exactly why this game fails to meet any form of potential. They have all these great ideas from past iterations (not just xi their entire catalogue) to create a lush, fun, lorefilled, unique playing environment, but seem to refuse to do so. It leaves fans and on lookers alike stumped, baffled, and screaming 'wtf are you doing???'.

[Raldo]

I do not want new races because it will make their already painstakingly slow process of making new gear/animations/etc. even slower.

[Dhalmel]

ah....Viera ass, sorry miqo'te you lose compare to those ladies.

[Jennestia]

No place? All races are all from the same multiverse, sure they have a place. Saying it's alright to port HD XI races because they are both MMOs, but from a different world

FFXI was an MMO, pretty much all MMOs has the basic Human, Elven, Dwarf, Beast/hulk (sometimes furry) race which is exactly what XI's races were, they went with the same general concepts (though different lore for the most part) in XIV simply to create a sense of familiarity for those who played XI and wanted to recreate their avatar in XIV, given how tied they originally wanted the two games to be (i.e discount for playing both) and the fact it was the same general development team working on both games at the start.

Ivalice is a sprawling world through multiple games and even a different game series (Final Fantasy Tactics/XII/TTAdvance/Vagrant Story), how would they explain races from a complete, different and unique world and timeline appearing in FFXIV? Bangaa are generally the "meh" race and merchants, so that would be fairly easy to fit in, but Eorzea isn't Ivalice nor is it anywhere near Ivalice unless the lands to the west is Ivalice. It's not like them having a Cid in every FF game, that's to be expect because heck, Cid is pretty much the main hero of the storylines in many ways.

That's why they'd have no place showing up here, because they're all confined perfectly to their respective game's storyline, it's like asking for Kefka to be a villain of FFXIV. Unless they don't care for continuity or the fact they exist as key races of another game series, more power to them -- May as well throw in some Guado and Al Bhed too. It would be nice to have more races, but I'm pretty sure Hydaelyn is big enough to house it's own unique races that fits more with this game's setting and lore.

[quantumsaint]

That's why they'd have no place showing up here, because they're all confined perfectly to their respective game's storyline, it's like asking for Kefka to be a villain of FFXIV. Unless they don't care for continuity or the fact they exist as key races of another game series, more power to them -- May as well throw in some Guado and Al Bhed too. It would be nice to have more races, but I'm pretty sure Hydaelyn is big enough to house it's own unique races that fits more with this game's setting and lore.

I lol'd because I remembered this post:

They should make an insane asylum in one of the major city-states, it's only occupant should be Kefka.