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    New Racers for Final Fantasy XIV

    I'd like to create a thread about opinions and discussions of Square Enix adding new races to the game.

    I personally vote for a race a lot like the Viera from FFXII, which I find is a lot more of a fan service than the Mithra/Miqo'te we have today. And it seems like SE is pretty much trying to recreate the game, so why not recreate recycled FFXI races?

    So what do you guys think? Should there be an array of new races and drift away from FFXI? Or should they take the time to redesign the current races and keep the FFXI feel?
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    I dont think any of the Ivalice races should be used, that's an entirely separate world I do not want to see abused for "fan service"

    They also don't need to redesign the current races, they have a good amount of FFXI feel with enough freshness that its still new.

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    There is enough races, although unlike most games of late the "beastmen" here arnt playable. Counting those its a darwins dream. But from what we have there is 10 playable factions, which is pretty standard.

    Edit: actually I wouldn't mind the race already in game not available. Name eludes me ATM, too early.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Junpei View Post
    I dont think any of the Ivalice races should be used, that's an entirely separate world I do not want to see abused for "fan service"

    They also don't need to redesign the current races, they have a good amount of FFXI feel with enough freshness that its still new.

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    FF XI is a different game too and they reused races so I see no reason why not to use races from other Final Fantasis.
    Viera would be cool but I would love to have those lizard men from XII. They looked really cool for me.
    Edit. Besides SE already conformed they would like to add some dragon race or something, didn't they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quisi View Post
    FF XI is a different game too and they reused races so I see no reason why not to use races from other Final Fantasis.
    Mostly..because Ivalice is a different world linked with two different game series, FFXI > FFXIV made sense because these are generic races that fits the typical mold of MMO races -- For example Viera has no place in Eorzea, nor does Bangaa.

    They mentioned a dragon and demi human race, but they didn't mention it being playable races, for example Dragons clearly have to have some kind of hierarchy to mount up against humans, much like other Beastmen tribes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Mostly..because Ivalice is a different world linked with two different game series, FFXI > FFXIV made sense because these are generic races that fits the typical mold of MMO races -- For example Viera has no place in Eorzea, nor does Bangaa.

    They mentioned a dragon and demi human race, but they didn't mention it being playable races, for example Dragons clearly have to have some kind of hierarchy to mount up against humans, much like other Beastmen tribes.
    No place? All races are all from the same multiverse, sure they have a place. Saying it's alright to port HD XI races because they are both MMOs, but from a different world and not okay to port races from other games in the series because they are offline, is a pretty lame excuse - no offense. If you're going to rob from other games within the series (as xi was a game in the series) you may as well bring back fan favorites.

    I am kind of going to swerve a bit off topic here, but maintaining the logic not to dig into past games and completely reinvent the wheel is exactly why this game fails to meet any form of potential. They have all these great ideas from past iterations (not just xi their entire catalogue) to create a lush, fun, lorefilled, unique playing environment, but seem to refuse to do so. It leaves fans and on lookers alike stumped, baffled, and screaming 'wtf are you doing???'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxter View Post
    No place? All races are all from the same multiverse, sure they have a place. Saying it's alright to port HD XI races because they are both MMOs, but from a different world
    FFXI was an MMO, pretty much all MMOs has the basic Human, Elven, Dwarf, Beast/hulk (sometimes furry) race which is exactly what XI's races were, they went with the same general concepts (though different lore for the most part) in XIV simply to create a sense of familiarity for those who played XI and wanted to recreate their avatar in XIV, given how tied they originally wanted the two games to be (i.e discount for playing both) and the fact it was the same general development team working on both games at the start.

    Ivalice is a sprawling world through multiple games and even a different game series (Final Fantasy Tactics/XII/TTAdvance/Vagrant Story), how would they explain races from a complete, different and unique world and timeline appearing in FFXIV? Bangaa are generally the "meh" race and merchants, so that would be fairly easy to fit in, but Eorzea isn't Ivalice nor is it anywhere near Ivalice unless the lands to the west is Ivalice. It's not like them having a Cid in every FF game, that's to be expect because heck, Cid is pretty much the main hero of the storylines in many ways.

    That's why they'd have no place showing up here, because they're all confined perfectly to their respective game's storyline, it's like asking for Kefka to be a villain of FFXIV. Unless they don't care for continuity or the fact they exist as key races of another game series, more power to them -- May as well throw in some Guado and Al Bhed too. It would be nice to have more races, but I'm pretty sure Hydaelyn is big enough to house it's own unique races that fits more with this game's setting and lore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Junpei View Post
    I dont think any of the Ivalice races should be used, that's an entirely separate world I do not want to see abused for "fan service"

    They also don't need to redesign the current races, they have a good amount of FFXI feel with enough freshness that its still new.

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    This is not the same world as FFXI. Prior to XI it was very rare that any character was not Human. off the top of my head I can think of Mog Yeti Kimari Vivi and The wierd Chef Guy/Girl.

    Being a new world I think it's a good idea to expand upon the races. Using the Vierra would be a nice starting point seeing as they are very popular. I just hope SE keep it Highly Humanoid. Miqo'te is about as far toward Animal-like I want to see. I'd rather the new races be people with animal traits rather than Animals with human traits.
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    I agree, not enough racers.

    VROOOOOOM VROOOOM.

    Joking aside, I want Viera from 12.

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    Last edited by DoctorMog; 12-05-2011 at 01:47 AM.

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    I know they said they are adding a couple new races later on in the series. Something about a dragon race or whatnot.

    but it'd be awesome to play a Vierra in an MMO. Definately be exciting to have more racial differentiation.

    Oh and I hope with the new character enhancements they are doing to the current races, I hope they let us have the ability to make the Miqote more "manly" and beastlike like they were in XI.
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