DRK changes from Prelim notes

[Tint]

. . . AOE abilities shouldn't be useful on single target. That's the point of aoe abilities. Not everything has to be useful in every situation.

that's true. but Dark Passenger wasn't even that usefull in aoe situations. i only use it on low lvl for the aoe blind because it's at least something defense wise. and when i pull really really and my mana overflows and i have no idea where to spend it. so pretty niche.

however, there are other aoe skills wich are usefull on singletarget too. i have no idea about all the classes, but assise, aero 3, circle of scorn, shadow flare, salted earth and hissatsu guren come to my mind. so it's nothing new. and we are used to use dark passenger in single target from 3.0. changing it and then it's still kinda meh for aoe situations? then better change it back to the 3.0 state.

edit: man i am really a slow typer xD

[Hierro]

since shake it off is miles better that TBN DRK should wiled the best dps of the 3 or at least being equal to war, not being the lowest of the 3,and if you think DRK is more easy that PLD you never try seriously optimice DRK.

Honey, I can beat you on chardanook.

[Kabooa]

Let's change Circle of Scorn, Doton, Foul, Salted Earth, Shadow Flare etc. then because they're AoE abilities first and that's gotta be a dichotomy. This line of logic sounds extremely flawed. Dark Passenger was quite usable in Heavensward and there's no reason for it not to be right now. Dark Knight already has Salted Earth, Quietus, Abyssal Drain, and (ugh) Unleash for AoE, Dark Passenger being a STRICTLY AoE ability seems a waste of a cool animation and Dark Knight defining attack for the class.

Because Dark wouldn't have enough buttons to press as is.

[shao32]

Honey, I can beat you on chardanook.

First im a man, and second come at me on chardanook without a mch, nin, dragoon And 31,12% of balance uptime like me and we can Talk.

[Kabooa]

First im a man, and second come at me on chardanook without a mch, nin, dragoon And 31,12% of balance uptime like me and we can Talk.

6 Darks, two white mages.

Let's !@#%ing go.

[Xenosan]

One element though is that DRK's AOE oGCDs have to compensate for the lack of a Berserk or FoF that buffs Global AOEs. Other than +50 potency from DA-Quietus, DRK does not buff their AOE potencies like PLD/WAR can. Putting DP on 60sec recast, I might start to miss that 30sec because I like to try using it 2x in trash pulls (and that's not likely to happen now since trash will probably be dead before a 2nd).

[mrt617]

I'm a Paladin main, but I do play DRK in O6s right now because that second last kiss is rough on Paladin and DRK has mitigation options galore in the fight. In my opinion even before this update DRK was in a pretty good place especially on bosses that deal magic damage. The only thing it was lacking and sadly still lacks is raid wide mitigation options like a divine veil or shake it off. There is a lot of raid wide damage this tier so I would still have DRK 3rd for Kefka and God Kefka, but if we do have any raids with more single target things to mitigate and magic damage busters DRK will be the preferred tank.

Every time my sheltron gets taken off by an auto right before a tank buster I am so jealous that DRK's have Blackest Night.

[Kabooa]

Plunge: more oGCD enmity for DRK and QoL? I'll take it. Not sure if I like the DA effect..

I'm going to !@#%! REEEEEEEEEEEEE at things like you wouldn't believe.

[shao32]

6 Darks, two white mages.

Let's !@#%ing go.

No, if we made It they can Nerf us bcs we oviously op ^^

[Xesh]

Many people here are missing the point of the plunge change. First of all, you will NOT dark arts more often than now. DA plunge is the same as DA syphon strike or soul eater, but instead of using it on one of those two it goes on the plunge. Same amount of dark arts.
Secondly, they didn't add this potency increase for the potency itself, but just to make up for the mp you lose on a a plunge dark arts for the enmity.
Tldr you have the same amount of dark arts with the same potency regarding plunge.
Dark passenger is a great change as well, although you still lose some damage compared to a dark arts due to slashing so I really only see DP being useful for 2 enemies or more or to get a bigger enmity boost when picking up adds.