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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post

    Let's see if you can answer this: what benefit exactly would there be in hacking ACT? You know, assuming that you can inject something into FFXIV without getting caught in the first place. How would that help anybody at all in a combat scenario, which the primary area that ACT is centered? And if it was this huge hacking issue that threatens to ruin the game, how come the devs, Yoshi-P included, enjoy watching the world first races, and don't come down on those players who are openly using it? Hmm?
    Masqurade a bot as ACT maybe? , Synchronize skills among party members using ACT so everything is done perfectly?

    What Yoshi-P does and what SE says are different, we know that. ACT users are first to complain about everything being too easy, because they took all the fun out of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Masqurade a bot as ACT maybe? , Synchronize skills among party members using ACT so everything is done perfectly?

    What Yoshi-P does and what SE says are different, we know that. ACT users are first to complain about everything being too easy, because they took all the fun out of the game.
    So....now this is turning into a parse-user discussion over game content? Yup...

    You can't synchronize perfectly in quite a few fights. V5S would eat right through this supposed programming because, again, randomized mechanics. Which you should know if you have done any time at all in V5S. Or V7S, because of Virus + searing wind. Again, no benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    So....now this is turning into a parse-user discussion over game content?
    You asked. Don't ask questions you don't want an answer to.

    Modders ruined games I liked playing. I see this happening again, and people defending tools like ACT FFXIV Plugin don't want to admit that they are cheating, and when they ask for hard content, they don't get it. Players who play the game legitimately need to be able to complete content without using those tools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
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    You are equating modders with hackers. Just like you are equating ACT with mods. Do they have similar functions? Yes they do. In both cases, they are similar in that regard. But not all modders are hackers, that is a fact. I don't understand how you can consider it cheating when the information is provided to you in the form of the default battle log that you get anyways - but nobody is going to sit there and actively calculate every single damage number that pops up in that log. That's far too inefficient, especially over the course of a long fight. Nor is someone going to be able to calculate what contribution you are bringing to the party as a whole. And fun fact - I am on PS4, and I am capable of completing content like this without a parse. I prefer to see my numbers because that is the most efficient way to be able to improve. So there goes your argument about completing content without tools - plenty of people do so. If you want to call it cheating, fine. You have a problem with it.

    The devs don't as long as its not being used to harass.

    Can you clear any of Sigmascape yourself? You know, since we apparently triggered your anti-parse binge. As is it, you're combining two separate issues which don't go hand in hand with each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Modders ruined games I liked playing. I see this happening again, and people defending tools like ACT FFXIV Plugin don't want to admit that they are cheating, and when they ask for hard content, they don't get it. Players who play the game legitimately need to be able to complete content without using those tools.
    Please stop lol

    Your over zealous black and white stance is only showing everyone how narrow-sighted and close-minded you are. I dare say you're borderlining asinine behaviour.

    Take it from a random guy who came into this thread...though I do thank you for the entertainment your head strong attitude is providing
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Masqurade a bot as ACT maybe? , Synchronize skills among party members using ACT so everything is done perfectly?

    What Yoshi-P does and what SE says are different, we know that. ACT users are first to complain about everything being too easy, because they took all the fun out of the game.
    I'm usually not one to compare games because they are apples and oranges, but I felt like this a complete misunderstanding of capabilities. WoW, which has a very robust mod community, is not able to do this. If it were that easy, everyone would be clearing mythic raids there. Even with all the addon's, there are still a large portion who are not able to clear the raids. Their addon's will tell you a lot more than ACT does, and there is still a lot of failure. I think ACT has a long way to go before it can be considered something that is ruining the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menriq View Post
    I'm usually not one to compare games because they are apples and oranges, but I felt like this a complete misunderstanding of capabilities. WoW, which has a very robust mod community, is not able to do this. If it were that easy, everyone would be clearing mythic raids there. Even with all the addon's, there are still a large portion who are not able to clear the raids. Their addon's will tell you a lot more than ACT does, and there is still a lot of failure. I think ACT has a long way to go before it can be considered something that is ruining the game.
    As a previous multi-boxer, there are ways to do this.

    But...lets just say that the amount of effort (and subs one player would be paying, as I was paying for 5) to pull this off justifies the outcome. It is also far more difficult than playing one character lol
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