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    Player Vhailor's Avatar
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    Deionarra Eidolon
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    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    I don't care about people using mods but if someone is deliberately trying to take and show others pictures of your character with nudity to antagonize the person that most certainly is harassment.
    In fairness, based on what OP presented through the first four or so pages of this thread, there's no evidence whatsoever of people using nude character mods in this fashion. That said, obviously you're right - but I'd also point out that nobody needs an ERP mod to harass someone. There are any number of ways to antagonize another player, and the general resolution for all of them is enforcing rules of conduct the relevant platform has, be that the official forums, Reddit, your FC's website, or FFXIV itself.

    The feel I get from this thread is that people are attacking a mod because it's a potential avenue for harassment. It's a misguided approach, akin to saying we should ban profanity and other words that can be used in a derogatory fashion.
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    Robas Kebas
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    I'm surprised this thread is still going.
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    i can understand if you have a picture of yourself in facebook then someone take it and photoshop it nude or something.

    but in game? excuse me those are pixel, the avatar is not even you, how can you be offended by that?

    its like someone standing beside you, staring your clothe for a minute and you get very angry and offended because you said "you just stare at me imagining me naked!!!"

    whats this? video game version of "dehumanizing stare" aka "dehumanizing mods"?

    i dont buy this, op must be trolling.

    and for the record if you got offended by this, by all mean never ever touch VRchat
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    Tbh I see it as trampling someone's sandcastle. It's harsh, rude and uncalled for. But it shouldn't be grounds to ban someone. But if you start taking it personal... get help.
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    Ana Nuann
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenoCranel View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    I don't care about people using mods but if someone is deliberately trying to take and show others pictures of your character with nudity to antagonize the person that most certainly is harassment.
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    Except it isn't, because your character isn't identifiable. Get a gaggle of miqo, slap swimsuits on them all, turn off nameplates, put them all in a box, shake the box, pour them out of the box. Can you tell who is you? Can they?

    The answer is no. As such that harassment isn't real, it's playing completely on the person's delusions,** and that IS harassment, but the underlying stressor is absolute nonsense. If they weren't so troubled as to believe a generic character model is uniquely representative of them, they wouldn't feel bothered in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anatha View Post
    Except it isn't, because your character isn't identifiable. Get a gaggle of miqo, slap swimsuits on them all, turn off nameplates, put them all in a box, shake the box, pour them out of the box. Can you tell who is you? Can they?
    I do just want to mention, it's obviously different if they put pictures of your character with the nude mod and shove your name on it, with the intention of harassment. If they just do it, you can't exactly tell it's you. If they put your name on it, it's targeted.
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    Gin Gitsune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    I do just want to mention, it's obviously different if they put pictures of your character with the nude mod and shove your name on it, with the intention of harassment. If they just do it, you can't exactly tell it's you. If they put your name on it, it's targeted.
    If they did it on my character I would have a good laugh tbh :/
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    Eliza Tepes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anatha View Post
    Get a gaggle of miqo, slap swimsuits on them all, turn off nameplates, put them all in a box, shake the box, pour them out of the box.
    Someone please do this, for...science...
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    Ana Nuann
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    More specifically, there's zero harassment taking place in these scenarios tc brought up. Someone takes nudes of catgirls and slaps them in Tumblr or Twitter? Who the heck cares? Not only would you never know, not only would you be unable to tell it was you, odds are someone's already done it if you've made an even halfway cute character and nothing came of it, did it?

    The only harassment scenario put forth that's legitimate harassment is a player persistently sexually propositioning another player, but anyone who legitimately doesn't want that attention /blacklists with the quickness.

    But someone taking pictures of you or anyone else? Not harassment. Nor can it be used to harass others. There's no extortionary value in something you can't make public. That's like threatening someone with evidence they are having an affair but you're in the background of the picture commiting murder or something. You can't use it.
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    Ana Nuann
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    Neither can people using these mods you're on about. They can't make it public because you can't use mods, the only way they can post it is if it's completely anonymous, meaning no one knows who is in the picture.

    It's the real life equivalent of taking a picture with your face and any identifying marks obscured. It can't be used against you.

    It really bothers me that tc and some others are blowing this our of proportion when there are LITERAL cyber bullies on this game, people who seriously go out of their way to harm others.

    That is a problem. This topic is not.
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