What is casual / hardcore player?

[fusional]

while I agree with the most of thing you said, but last part. There are a few helpful though idea scatter around the forum after 1.19a, but those thread simply being ignore by the most of community or being shot down.

ps: I request for "new arrows concept" magic ability elemental dmg on arrows, mana shots arrows.....but it being forget quickly, it doesn't survive for 3 days. While my 3rd request "Exp reduce" which is not about Q.Q but simply ask for longer party exp and add in quest lvl beside guildlvl daily, all I got is flame, and talk about grind, PL, hardcore bla bla bla I dont know what.


for addition information:

I had request 4 thing in this game so far:

1. combo (in game)
2. Arrows concept (half agree and being ignore)
3. exp reduce (got flame and swear and bla bla bla)
4. Camping system (strongly reject)

while i definitely don't agree with your suggestions of the camping system and reducing xp, i wouldn't necessary call them QQ, either. i think those are good examples of providing an opinion, even if controversial, but supporting it and trying to get constructive feedback from the community.

i would say a major reason the community is ignoring or even immediately shooting down your ideas is that we've become so entrenched in baseless QQ threads/posts that people are becoming hypersensitive to every new post/thread that complains about something, and just write it off. and/or there are just so many other new threads of people flailing around for attention that we lose focus and don't spend enough time/attention on threads that deserve it.

i see this a lot in another forum i post in. it moves pretty quickly, and threads rarely last over 20-40 posts because so many new threads are being made constantly. obviously it doesn't move quite that fast here (or does it?), but when it does move- most of the new threads are just pointless crying/bickering about something that could have been presented in an already existing thread with dev tags.

i understand people are upset about this or that, and they have the right to express their displeasure. but the avenues they choose in expressing it are effectively causing the community itself to turn a deaf ear on them. and for good reason. we do this with our kids when they're complaining constantly, we do this with the debbie downer at the party, etc.

tl;dr- there's constructive criticism/feedback/suggestion, and there's just flat out complaining. your threads aren't flat out complaining, but most of the others are.

[AmyRae]

and just because they share your opinion and/or use the same avenues of expression doesn't mean it isn't baseless whining. tell me what's constructive about saying "you changed a class i play in a constantly changing world and in spite of us all voting for radical changes i don't like this particular change so give me an entirely free level 50 class for it due to my unfounded sense of entitlement"

seriously, take your time.

you can white knight these people all you want, call me a troll all you want, but you're just playing the deflect/project/shed the spotlight game that every other crying casual does when they're feeling the need to express their existential angst and don't know how.

The fact that you think any casual player would be making this silly request, let alone that typical casual players think this way tells me you're very quick to hate and slow to think.

Seriously... take your time.

You're pining your frustrations on a group of people who don't even fit your concerns.

[fusional]

deflection/projection

really cool story. now try adding something constructive unless your devious plan is to prove me right.

[Lucifer]

really cool story. now try adding something constructive unless your devious plan is to prove me right.

Please add something constructive to at least one of your posts.

[AmyRae]

really cool story. now try adding something constructive unless your devious plan is to prove me right.

How about this?

[fusional]

Please add something constructive to at least one of your posts.

i did. i constructively suggested you go 'finish the game' you said you could 'finish' in under a month and seem to know so much about while having experienced so little of it. or, in laymen's terms: if you're so hardcore, put your money where your mouth is.

if i were being nonconstructive i'd just call you a noob and call it a day. i feel that's unnecessary, though, as it's apparent enough without having to point it out. dig?

[Lucifer]

Call me a noob and call it a day. Typical angst.
Deal with the fact this is not my main.
I hope it tortures you knowing how stupid you sound.

[Searious]

People that don't take it seriously I suppose, but if you are serious about martial arts; you need to train everyday. It must become part of your life. One to two hours a day is all you need to develop your body, but it's more than just keeping your body in physical shape. You went around traveling and even took part in competitions. That's definitely hardcore but in my opinion, any form of martial arts; if practiced seriously, is hardcore.

It is hardcore..and it gives you less time for other things like a full time job or girlfriend or social life. If you want to go full throttle with anything you've got to sacrifice something else.

My original point was step on the idea that "hardcore" is basically saying, "You have no life, no girlfriends, blah blah."

Lol you seriously think someone who can afford to put in 10+ hours into a game has a girlfriend? I mean a real one..not an internet one.
Not everyone is some multimillionaire that can spend their day in any matter they see fit.[/QUOTE]
You're right which is why I can't play this game as often as I like. That doesn't mean "hardcore players" should look down on me just because I've got a busier schedule than them.

[SniperRifle]

Interesting topic.

Hardcore players could be considered perfectionists. Casuals are more laid back when playing.

Hardcore players probably set ground rules/abide by ingame etiquette. Casuals are more lenient.

Hardcore players take the game seriously. Casuals have a 'It's just a game.' attitude.

My best description of the 2 types of players.

[Shneibel]

Hardcore players probably set ground rules/abide by ingame etiquette. Casuals are more lenient.

confirm it for you