Quit Ruining The General Discussions

[Mhaeric]

I'm not spending days in and out complaining to other players about Eureka, the cash shop, the app, what P2W is, why I am or am not unsubbed, or anything like that. I'm talking about the posters who are perpetuating the recent trend, since it was those players in the first place who started this.

Or... Just continue to complain for no reason at all. Because that's how dissatisfied community members do things these days... Sit on a computer and complain and tweet about it to other players on hopes that they'll either join them, or they "prove" that they're forum trolls themselves.

Yeah, that will totally show the other players that we mean serious business, right?

[Sigma-Astra]

Or... Just continue to complain for no reason at all. Because that's how dissatisfied community members do things these days... Sit on a computer and complain and tweet about it to other players on hopes that they'll either join them, or they "prove" that they're forum trolls themselves.

Yeah, that will totally show the other players that we mean serious business, right?

Well, if other people on the forums can just continue to circle their complaints about their dislike and hatred for SE lately around over and over again non-stop, why can't this person make a complaint thread that they're tired of hearing the same complaints in like....10 different topics over and over again? That's their right.

Imagine you're working in customer service and you have the same lady come to the counter 10 different times with the same item to complain about for the whole 4 hours that you're working, you'd get a little irate too I'm sure.

[Mhaeric]

Well, if other people on the forums can just continue to circle their complaints about their dislike and hatred for SE lately around over and over again non-stop, why can't this person make a complaint thread that they're tired of hearing the same complaints in like....10 different topics over and over again? That's their right.

Never said it wasn't. It's just freaking hilarious to post a complaint post telling people they shouldn't complain.

[Sigma-Astra]

Never said it wasn't. It's just freaking hilarious to post a complaint post telling people they shouldn't complain.

They didn't really state that those people couldn't complain honestly, just that the constant bandwagoning effect is getting a little old which I think we can all agree on here. If you're unhappy with a company and/or its products, then leaving and letting the company directly know why you're leaving is the best course of action that you can take, instead of sitting there and making 100 forum posts over the course of a week voicing the same complaint over and over in various different ways acting as if the reps will actually bother to look through a Sea of Threads for your feedback.

Being a moderator on any kind of public forum is more or less a voluntary position that pays nothing and rewards you with nothing and quite possibly the most mindless and numbing thing to do. No moderator is going to want to shift through 10 different threads all voicing the same complaints being spoken in several different ways and tones...nor want to compile all of that information from 10 different threads and put it together into one cohesive feedback report to the director/developers.

[KaivaC]

To be fair, the General Discussion is where the most players congregate and SE has already admitted they look at thread size when it comes to responding to concerns from their playerbase. I don't think it's in any way wrong to have an issue and voice it civilly, particularly in one of the very few places where it actually might be heard. Different people have different tolerances for certain issues and as customers we all have a right to voice them. Just because one person has no issue with how things are implemented does not mean that their stance supersedes others, either. No one's opinions hold more 'weight' and that's a dangerous precedent to set.

With that said however, actively antagonizing others is not the way to go about it. I'm aware of who you are referring to and some of their posts and I do agree very much that debates should be kept civil.

Which is fine and fair, but there really are no civil discussions going on about this. Some of the threads may start civil, but then they quickly descend into:

1) poster says something
2) another poster disagrees
3) poster says no you're wrong
4) other poster counter-argues about why their wrong
5) it expands from there repeating the same cycle
6) sometimes something else is either brought in or cherry picked
6) ultimately, nothing is gained because now everybody is arguing

Or... Just continue to complain for no reason at all. Because that's how dissatisfied community members do things these days... Sit on a computer and complain and tweet about it to other players on hopes that they'll either join them, or they "prove" that they're forum trolls themselves.

Yeah, that will totally show the other players that we mean serious business, right?

Oh...haha...except I'm not trolling. I'm not here trying to convince anybody of anything that I myself don't believe in, and I didn't post this for the simple matter of provoking specific responses. I know exactly what I said, and every word I typed, I meant. I publicly noted that there's a wave of negativity. If you take offense at the fact that I'm pointing it out or that I'm pointing at specific reasons where the negativity is festering...well, tough. It needed to be said.

Also, quit cherry picking what I'm saying. I don't mind people complaining...hell, I am complained plenty of times about things here on the forums. But those threads actually went somewhere. As heated as my discussions have gotten, there was productive discussions involved and they never devolved into the same complaints spread over multiple pages for the General Discussions. But you don't see me filling 5-6 threads saying the exact same thing over and over and over again, just with a different flavor.

[Mhaeric]

I don't mind people complaining...hell, I am complained plenty of times about things here on the forums. But those threads actually went somewhere.

Yeah, because this complaint thread is Goin' Places™

[KaivaC]

Yeah, because this complaint thread is Goin' Places™

Are you actually going to say anything productive here or just continue trolling me? Would rather know now so I know to not respond to or pay attention to what you say.

[Mhaeric]

Are you actually going to say anything productive here or just continue trolling me? Would rather know now so I know to not respond to or pay attention to what you say.

What is there productive to say in a thread that's is nothing but complaining about other people complaining? There's nothing worth actually discussing here. All you're doing is trying to get people to agree with you or getting the complainers riled up.

[Cidel]

Yeah, because this complaint thread is Goin' Places™

Yeah, I foresee a thread lock/deletion.


Until then- nachos anyone?