Stop with the pay to win advanages for retainers, suggestions on fixes

[SinisterJoints]

I literally resubbed just so I can post in these "pay to win" threads.

So by most of your arguments that this is pay to win...

SO is my legacy account
So are the 4 extra retainers I pay for


These dramatic, nonsensical arguments need to stop. It's getting rather annoying and frustrating because they never stop.

To be perfectly honest, the apps concept (imo) is garbage. They want real money to change MB listing via mobile phones etc. Anyone who pays for that is stupid.

I'm all for threads that share the same mindset (that the app is garbage) but all this "OMG ITS PAY TO WIN" nonsense is...well...nonsense.

Even after explaining it to you, you still miss the point. It has nothing to do with convenience. It has to do with productivity. The difference with the app and not having the app is HUGE for career crafters, and all the career crafters that post here say the same thing, this app and P2W system is very problematic to their enjoyment, where that top 1% of 1% (very few people, as in 1 per server if that) will full out abuse it. (Claiming to have xyz leveled or being an "omicrafter" has no baring in being a career crafter. some people play this game spending all thier time crafting , gathering, and making gil cuz that is what they find fun. Just because you have little interest in something does not mean there is no P2W because "it doesn't effect anything" These are the people that still collect gil even after having a retainer or three with cap gil.)




No it is not, career crafters don't want this in the game. Wonderful, you like screwing over people with different tastes then you.

Ok what? what productivity? I'm a career crafter, 2 accounts with all max crafters and gatherers on both. This new app will have absolutely NO effect on MB transactions that already don't take place. being a "career crafter" you should know this already. If someone wants to relist and undercut all day long nothing is stopping them from doing so. They just have to log in...there literally is ZERO DIFFERENCE (other than convenience) . People want to pay more for something they are already paying for??? (at a premium price I might add) then so be it. I think you personally Vstar, are making this a mountain out of a molehill for no reason other than to dust off your pitchfork (which shouldnt even be dusty considering )