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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    So after overhoarding things you didn't spirinbond to yourself, its impossible to change your mind & not want to use them anymore & then flip them by selling them on marketboard afterward? Right I forgot ever everything that ppl hoard is market prohibited.
    How am I going to be able to sell Raid Weapon, tier gear, tome gear, and various soulbound glamour gears?
    Please do educate me.
    Oh my god, I am so want to know how to sell these rare/ex gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    How am I going to be able to sell Raid Weapon, tier gear, tome gear, and various soulbound glamour gears?
    Please do educate me.
    Oh my god, I am so want to know how to sell these rare/ex gear.
    Go to the PF, there are run sellers all the time there. . . Don't act like they don't exist.

    They've been in the game since Titan HM was a gate for the original Relic.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 04-21-2018 at 06:52 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Go to the PF, there's run sellers all the time there. . . Don't act like they don't exist.
    He is specifically saying those rare/ex and glamour items already in my retainer inventory tho.
    Did you pay attention to that?
    You may want to read whole thing first.

    oh my bad, i should be more specific, i use world glamour items because they are bound already.
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    Last edited by Divinemights; 04-21-2018 at 06:54 AM.

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    Hmmmm 5 dollar and add 2 dollars for an extra slot....-.- what is there to argue, unfair to those who boycott this app? The world is already unfair...it's a business, people get over it. Optional label, micro transactions, does it really matter? In t he end we are the consumer, we have the power, we have choices...don't use it, through a tantrum and rage quit, in the end it means the same...our choice. Life is not fair so make it fair in your own way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Hmmmm 5 dollar and add 2 dollars for an extra slot....-.- what is there to argue, unfair to those who boycott this app? The world is already unfair...it's a business, people get over it. Optional label, micro transactions, does it really matter? In t he end we are the consumer, we have the power, we have choices...don't use it, through a tantrum and rage quit, in the end it means the same...our choice. Life is not fair so make it fair in your own way.
    You're right. It is a business, but with that come expectations.

    You go into a F2P model game knowing that it's going to be littered with micro transactions. All over the thing.

    You go into a subscription based model MMO expecting your sub to pay for most everything the game offers. Like someone said before, you don't expect a subscription within the subscription. That has never happened before and that's why this is so jarring.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    You're right. It is a business, but with that come expectations.You go into a F2P model game knowing that it's going to be littered with micro transactions. All over the thing.

    You go into a subscription based model MMO expecting your sub to pay for most everything the game offers. Like someone said before, you don't expect a subscription within the subscription. That has never happened before and that's why this is so jarring.
    Yes with the business comes the expectation that the whole reason this game was even manufacture was to make money. That is the number one reason for a business. It's common sense that business can use different tools at their disposal to make money. So like in many other threads... at the end of the day it's up to us to decide on OPTIONAL services. If it seems unfair..just ask your self these simple questions.

    Are they or will they be making money?


    Are they doing anything illegal?


    Am I trowing a tantrum or being over dramatic being I will probably be a hypocrite and use it anyways? (harsh but true )

    IF after these people still can't place two and two together, lets ask something else.

    Will the game be effected in a way that I can't participate in it or be excluded from content outside of the main story line or expansion sets? if so how? ( would love to hear this one ) Will not having extra retainers or access outside of my PC / gaming console ruin my chances of enjoying this game or am I just being childish and feel it's unfair because other people can afford it?

    We all pay subscriptions, some less than others do to legacy, so we all have the same options in one way or another.

    As for subscription over a subscription their are several games that have had this in the past, people just refused to acknowledge it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    You're right. It is a business, but with that come expectations.

    You go into a F2P model game knowing that it's going to be littered with micro transactions. All over the thing.

    You go into a subscription based model MMO expecting your sub to pay for most everything the game offers. Like someone said before, you don't expect a subscription within the subscription. That has never happened before and that's why this is so jarring.
    People defending micro transactions are why the gaming industry is in the sad state it is today. "Its optional!!!!" until it isn't and we all suffer for it.
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