What to do when out of leves? Grind?

[Blarp]

I never understood why people that don't care about plot even play RPGs...

MMORPG's aren't strictly RPG's. They're multiplayer games. I find the stories I have from playing with real people are always more interesting than what the writers have given us. It doesn't help that, over the years, I found most JRPG storylines to be full of cliche and retarded angsty teen drama.

[Meow_Zedong]

MMORPG's aren't strictly RPG's. They're multiplayer games. I find the stories I have from playing with real people are always more interesting than what the writers have given us. It doesn't help that, over the years, I found most JRPG storylines to be full of cliche and retarded angsty teen drama.

Still. It's weird to me. It's like buying a comic book and only looking at the pictures. Yeah, the art is an important part, but what's the point?

[Lienn]

If out of leves do Caravan Escort and/or Behest!

Grind is never the best option IMO...because grind is also the main source of boredom...including all types of grinding...from craft/gather grinding to xp parties/raid/ifrit/SH grinding.

[viion]

Still. It's weird to me. It's like buying a comic book and only looking at the pictures. Yeah, the art is an important part, but what's the point?

Because not everyone shares the same interest in enjoyment as you. I don't enjoy the story of XIV much because its very, very typical, common and cliche. Nothing is unique, its traditional scenario which I likely can guess what is going to happen and is easily summed up.

This isnt XIV or SE's problem though, happens all the time, movies, many games. Its hard to do things different unless everything is different.

[Leknaat]

And that's why they're all incredibly bland and boring from a gameplay perspective. Some of the cutscenes are nice, and if you care about the plot for this game, they're good to do. If you care about interesting gameplay, you may want to find something else to do.

I did two sidequests. One at level 5 which had me run around the city and talk to various NPC's to get a signature or something i.e. Fed Ex quest. The other one had me go kill marmots to get a quest item. That's about as bland as it gets in terms of MMO quests. They don't become more involved or interesting as you level. They remain the same.

Yes, they're content by definition, but that doesn't make them fun or compelling.

Like you I find the content bland and mostly uninspired with the exception of the Ifrit fight and even that's a bit more gimmicky than inspired. But FFXIV is... what it is...

I think the most entertaining quest I did was the one in Limsa where I had to /psych emote rather than talk to the people. Byond that... bleaugh.

Put the game down, go play other stuff. They've promised a better brighter FFXIV (a year and half down the line). (And I'm hoping there's more inspired questing down the line).

[Rowyne]

I'm trying to find this game fun with how broken it is... but I feel like there's nothing to do when I'm out of leves, I could do a few quests, or grind. Or possibly find a group to grind with.

Grind... That is all. No matter what there is besides the few quests I could do, all I can do is Grind. Even find a group to grind with, which is pretty close to impossible. Usually find a duo at most which doesn't work to well.

I honestly feel like the concept of leves just wants me to not play until I build more up...

I don't agree with those who say you're whining. You didn't say anything that isn't true. I'm sorry for the negative responses.

You posed a legitimate question. This game doesn't present its intended leveling options very well.

Levequests used to be the intended meat and potatoes of leveling. Then Yoshi-P announced last June that leves would be taken away from being the main focus, and repositioned as solo/casual content, as he wanted to give us what other modern MMOs offer - a variety of leveling options.

Options such as:

• Main scenario quests
• Traditional quests (called sidequests in this game, something I'm personally not a fan of, since that makes them sound trivial)
• Behests
• Instanced raid dungeons
• Beastman Strongholds

However, those options are still being built and barely past the starting stages of being set up. Content is still pretty thin, and this game has yet to fully realize its future vision.

Also in the levequest announcement, Yoshi-P said this:

We still have some ways to go, but Final Fantasy XIV will gradually shift from being a grind-centric game to one that offers enjoyment for all playing styles and circumstances with its ever-expanding variety of content.

This is a huge complaint of mine, because right now it's a very contradictory statement. Old-school mindless grinding, a la FFXI, is one of the fastest ways to level right now. You can't stand in Ul'dah without being inundated with shout spam from people putting grind parties together. How is that getting away from being a grind-centric game?

I would like to see real quest-based leveling, where I could do nothing but quest all the way to level cap, if that's what I chose to do. Reason being, I play most of the time duo with my husband, and questing is what we enjoy doing together. However, questing is still so anemic, that's not yet an option.

[syntaxlies]

I'm trying to find this game fun with how broken it is... but I feel like there's nothing to do when I'm out of leves, I could do a few quests, or grind. Or possibly find a group to grind with.

Grind... That is all. No matter what there is besides the few quests I could do, all I can do is Grind. Even find a group to grind with, which is pretty close to impossible. Usually find a duo at most which doesn't work to well.

I honestly feel like the concept of leves just wants me to not play until I build more up...

omg you ran out of leves, lol. i havnt been below 80 since 1.19 lol. You wil lvl much faster in an xp party

[Belial]

This is a huge complaint of mine, because right now it's a very contradictory statement. Old-school mindless grinding, a la FFXI, is one of the fastest ways to level right now. You can't stand in Ul'dah without being inundated with shout spam from people putting grind parties together. How is that getting away from being a grind-centric game?

I would like to see real quest-based leveling, where I could do nothing but quest all the way to level cap, if that's what I chose to do. Reason being, I play most of the time duo with my husband, and questing is what we enjoy doing together. However, questing is still so anemic, that's not yet an option.

I highlighted the important parts to show you how this statement is not actually contradicting anything:

We still have some ways to go, but Final Fantasy XIV will gradually shift from being a grind-centric game to one that offers enjoyment for all playing styles and circumstances with its ever-expanding variety of content.

[Rowyne]

I highlighted the important parts to show you how this statement is not actually contradicting anything:

I see what you're getting at, but making grinding the most efficient way to level means we've outright moved backwards instead of forwards. At this rate, we're beyond 'gradual'. We've just plain missed the mark.

[Shneibel]

I see what you're getting at, but making grinding the most efficient way to level means we've outright moved backwards instead of forwards. At this rate, we're beyond 'gradual'. We've just plain missed the mark.

most of mmorpg now a day are quest grind, party grind only play a small part to support or to force ppl to pvp with each other (in pvp game), so yes I am agree with your point.

ps: maybe it is time to fix your sign ? will not be 12.99$

@OP who created this thread: get use to this community forum, they are not nice as the other forum.

tips: when you re out of quest you can "grind behest" (no other option) will be able to do every 30 min, but after the 1st you will have to wait until the last min to be able to register to another behest.