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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldviper18 View Post
    I've played many mmo's. And have grinded in many. The most common FFXI, you could fairly easily get a group together and grind XP that way, here it's near impossible to find a group of people. Let alone where to grind. WoW, you can do quests all the way up to 85. Actually there's even more than that in WoW to level. PvP, Dungeons, Grinding and Quests all very viable ways of leveling.

    I'm meerly asking what there is else to do, but no one can give me anything other than "You're not even level 15!" Or "You haven't done a single side quest aside from the opening cut scene!". For one, I'm actually 14 in several classes and 17 on thaumaturge now. And secondly, no I haven't done any side quests because my personal preference in any MMO has just been level now, do the quests later. Because I absolutely hate spending a bunch of time on a quest only to get to a part where I need to kill something and I'm not even remotely high enough level to do it. And I have looked at the list of potential quests and there are not that many available to my level that I could probably finish in less than a days playtime.

    Obviously, the hostility of everyone has shown and made my point more valid. There's nothing to do but grind. And while that's typically how all MMO's are, most of them try to make it less tedius by having many other options. This game, has one. Leves, and it runs out quite fast before you basically can either just go out and grind mobs over and over. Or not play the game as that's what Leves are basically telling you to do.
    I believe you have identified several opportunities for the game in your comments. I agree that the guildleve system has always been an Achilles' heel. It is institutionalized at this point, and providers people a way to gain gil and experience points relatively easily, but I don't think it is "today" meant to be the primary content in the game, although I think in the past that was definitely the intent.

    It sounds like from your post that you don't mind to skip quests and grind out some levels. I prefer this over quest leveling too, and especially over leve-leveling.

    I suggest you do a couple of things

    1. Find a guild that has a number of players that are your level. Almost any guild will have people that have jobs your level, even if they are already 50 on many of those jobs. Join up and if you still cannot get lower level groups, you can certainly work with your guild to power level your character up to a higher level. As a lot of us have been playing for a long time without a large influx of new players, there are probably not a lot of people searching for content at these lower levels.

    2. Short of joining a guild that is proactive in helping you level up, you can certainly create pick up groups in Ul'dah if you are willing to put the time and effort into shouting. Eventually you will find people who are facing similar issues that you are.

    These may not be the answers you are looking for. I don't disagree with your comments, but I do think this game is a lot more fun at higher levels, and with the support of a good guild to play with. Roaming FFXIV at low levels without a guild is a pretty empty experience.

    Good Luck!
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  2. 12-01-2011 07:07 AM

  3. #12
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    Sean Cody
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    I usually run around Uldah stalking people. It makes me happy
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  4. #13
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    Leknaat Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldviper18 View Post
    And secondly, no I haven't done any side quests because my personal preference in any MMO has just been level now, do the quests later. Because I absolutely hate spending a bunch of time on a quest only to get to a part where I need to kill something and I'm not even remotely high enough level to do it.
    And this is where your assumption is slightly flawed. The mainline quests for this game are currently designed that even a crafter without any combat skills should be able to clear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    In the OP's defense, there aren't a plethora of side quests to do at their level. The only thing outside of leves or grinding that they can do is trying to get a group together for Shposhae and do some party killing in there. They can also do a couple story quests.
    There are 25 sidequests and 3 (almost 4) main quests he could do. What constitutes a plethora in your opinion?
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    Aneas Corilius
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    ya let me spare you the drama, most quests are go kill 8 monsters and then ur done, fun indeed......

    The game is quite boring even if you can't bring yourself to admit it.
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  7. #16
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Quote Originally Posted by quantumsaint View Post
    There are 25 sidequests and 3 (almost 4) main quests he could do. What constitutes a plethora in your opinion?
    I stand corrected, there are quite a few sidequests in the 10-15 range. However when these quests are only providing 200-500 xp each, it's not really putting a huge dent in your progress. You can kill two or three monsters within a few minutes and get the same xp as it takes you to run around for 30 minutes in some cases for that average of 350 xp for a quest. Side quests are not a viable form of progression, nor were they designed to be.
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    Never said they were, but they are something to do while waiting for leves to reset. The OP says there's nothing to do but grind outside of leves, and even knows that there are quests he can do, but refuses to do them all the while complaining about having nothing to do. I have no sympathy for that.
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  9. #18
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    Tymora Estrellauta
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    Farm mobs for gil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leknaat View Post
    And this is where your assumption is slightly flawed. The mainline quests for this game are currently designed that even a crafter without any combat skills should be able to clear it.
    And that's why they're all incredibly bland and boring from a gameplay perspective. Some of the cutscenes are nice, and if you care about the plot for this game, they're good to do. If you care about interesting gameplay, you may want to find something else to do.

    I did two sidequests. One at level 5 which had me run around the city and talk to various NPC's to get a signature or something i.e. Fed Ex quest. The other one had me go kill marmots to get a quest item. That's about as bland as it gets in terms of MMO quests. They don't become more involved or interesting as you level. They remain the same.

    Yes, they're content by definition, but that doesn't make them fun or compelling.
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    I never understood why people that don't care about plot even play RPGs...
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