Cutscene skipping "peer pressure" What is it? Why does it exist? Why care?

[Iscah]

I hear there are REALLY LONG cutscenes for some special dungeons (not there yet still new to game). Those are probably...interesting to deal with.

Don’t worry about those. They’re the two dungeons that have now been altered so the cutscenes are unskippable, specifically to take this pressure off first-time players.

That said, there’s one early fight in the second dungeon that people can potentially still get locked out of due to varying computer/connection speeds making some people take different amounts of time (by a few seconds) to watch the scene. But all the important battles warp you into the arena so there’s no risk of missing them.

[Karl0217]

I know the feeling. I am tank main and several times I have had people pull the boss with me getting locked out of the fight when I try to watch the cut-scenes. You know I am pretty sure they lost what few seconds they gained and then some by tackling the ensuring boss fight without a tank. I don't get that mentality.

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

I remember a friend was kicked from The Praetorium 2 years ago for watching the cutscenes, they got lost trying to find the group and were upset enough to stop playing for a while.

Some people are ridiculous when it comes to watching cutscenes, some of them take a while but its hardly going to screw up your day over someone enjoying the cutscenes. Hell at this point, they are very short in instances now.

[duvvvv]

It's an emote. Get over yourself. Do you honestly think it's normal for every little thing to upset you so much?

did you even read what I wrote? this was 3-4 years ago, definitely over it. if there's anyone who's upset with every little thing, its sounds like you.

Oh... I feel kinda guilty now... Whenever I'm in a duty with a sprout who's watching a cutscene, I'll always give them a /pet as a way of reassurance; that them watching the cutscene is perfectly fine with me, and that I'll wait for them. I didn't even consider that they'd might interpret that as me rushing them.

not sure how others would feel, but when I was just new in this game seeing a bunch of emotes targeted at me while I was obviously engaged in something else and could not react in real time, it felt like people were bored and poking fun at me. now I just don't care. if I do sense someone in the party's actually being passive-agressive I simply ask if there's anything they need to say. then move on.

[Brynne]

At the end of the day, this isn't a single-player game. Cutscenes should be outright removed from 24man content (and really all multiplayer content). You're basically saying you value your time more than that of 23 other people.

This is a design problem by SE, then. If the cutscenes aren't meant to be viewed at the point when they trigger, they shouldn't trigger at that point.

As for the snarky comment about time... I'd agree if it were a really long cutscene (Praetorium's CS, for example), but it was thirty seconds out of people's lives so that someone could enjoy the game the way it's made to be enjoyed. We can't be courteous to each other any more without bitching about it being an inconvenience? If I can take thirty seconds out of my day to hold a door open for a group of people or tell someone the time when they ask, players in a video game could wait thirty seconds for someone to watch a cutscene when they're doing content for the first time.

[Luin]

This is a design problem by SE, then. If the cutscenes aren't meant to be viewed at the point when they trigger, they shouldn't trigger at that point.

As for the snarky comment about time... I'd agree if it were a really long cutscene (Praetorium's CS, for example), but it was thirty seconds out of people's lives so that someone could enjoy the game the way it's made to be enjoyed. We can't be courteous to each other any more without bitching about it being an inconvenience? If I can take thirty seconds out of my day to hold a door open for a group of people or tell someone the time when they ask, players in a video game could wait thirty seconds for someone to watch a cutscene when they're doing content for the first time.

30 seconds adds up. That's ~1minute of cutscene in an instance minimum? It doesn't take many runs for the waiting and doing literally nothing to be as long as an entire dungeon itself.

[Ameela]

30 seconds adds up. That's ~1minute of cutscene in an instance minimum? It doesn't take many runs for the waiting and doing literally nothing to be as long as an entire dungeon itself.

1 whole minute?!
Oof, imagine what you could have done in that time, could have teleported to Rhalgr's Reach and walked over to the tome vendor by the time you finish the boss, if only those pesky cutscene watchers weren't there!

If you're a DPS you already spend like 30 minutes doing nothing but wait for queues to pop, there's no reason to get upset over a run taking 60 seconds longer just because someone enjoys the game's story, especially if it's their first time through.

[Sapphire_Dianta]

God forbid we spend A WHOLE MINUTE here and there being courteous and looking out for our new players, right?

It sounds exactly like cutting other people off and speeding through almost-red lights to arrive at your destination 27 seconds earlier than you otherwise would've. Life isn't a speedrun. No one's parsing your fun-per-minute numbers.

[Vstarstruck]

I did indeed, and one person said 'not your fault', but the person I mentioned in my post made a snide remark about how you should always skip cutscenes in group content. I didn't reply to that, and later when they made the 'don't waste my time' comment, they left before I could reply.No one else said a word about it.

lol you prob can report them that point, since it shows they pulled while knowing there was a good chance for you to be locked out. You could argue it fits under disruption at that point.

I only takes 1 person to pull. It's 23 other people. You really cant be surprised, especially since you cant see who is viewing cutscenes across alliances.

Oh yes you can, this goes back to when I am tank I wait.

If someone is far enough where the name(heath bar, whatever) is darkened (yes it shows that across the different parties, I will not pull) If I am there and I see a darkened name when a pull was made? damn right I am saying something. I'll target whoever the boss has for its target and go hey so and so, why did you pull while everyone is not here?

For rab, the names are dark till they are very near to the jump point to go across the gap, if they are in CS, the name will be dark for those at the boss. I do not think I ever seen someone in CS but close enough for it to be normal colored.

[HoodRat]

1 whole minute?!
Oof, imagine what you could have done in that time, could have teleported to Rhalgr's Reach and walked over to the tome vendor by the time you finish the boss, if only those pesky cutscene watchers weren't there!

God forbid we spend A WHOLE MINUTE here and there being courteous and looking out for our new players, right?.

I don't really understand these posts. If the value of the cutscenes is only a "whole minute," then it honestly doesn't sound like people are missing out on much if they skip them.

Some people are ridiculous when it comes to watching cutscenes, some of them take a while but its hardly going to screw up your day over someone enjoying the cutscenes. Hell at this point, they are very short in instances now.

The opposite is also true: it's hardly going to screw up your day over skipping cutscenes. And honestly it sounds like your friend is the ridiculous one when it comes to watching cutscenes if they quit the game over being kicked once for watching cutscenes. Reminds me of the posts of people quitting the game just because they couldn't get a house in Shirogane.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think people should be pressured into skipping cutscenes, but honestly the only content in which this apparently was a problem is with the msq roulette dungeons (and I say "apparently" because, in all of my runs of those two dungeons, I have never seen anyone be kicked for watching cutscenes there), and it's no longer a problem. If anyone is being pressured to skip cutscenes it sounds like a case of some random on the internet being a douchebag. And I highly doubt a discussion on the morals of watching cutscenes is going to stop random people on the internet from being douchebags anytime soon.