BLU DPS

[Samsta]

I honestly don't know why people are so obsessed over Blue Mage, it will never be a real Blue Mage that steals abilities from enemies, your job quests would probably be "go there and steal that ability" but all in all that is the same thing that other jobs have. It would just be a weird caster job without a clear identity and I don't see why we need one.

[Seraphor]

it will never be a real Blue Mage that steals abilities from enemies

Blue Mage is the most varied job in the series and it hasn't always literally 'stolen' abilities from enemies, sometimes those abilities are learned from items.
So what is a "real" Blue Mage?

[Alexalibur]

Blue Mage in the series:

FFV: Learns by getting hit.
FFVI Learns by seeing the skill getting executed, therefore blind stops the process.
FFVII: Learns by getting hit.
FFVIII: Learns by using an item.
FFIX: Learns by eating a weak monster.
FFX: Learns by getting hit.(CORRECTION: Learns using Lancet. Thanks Mikey_R I'm stupid)
FFXI: Don't know.
FFTA: Learns by getting hit.
FFTA2: Learns by getting hit.
FF Explorers: Learns by having the monster use the skill then killing it (Keep in mind that BLU here is considered a tank).

BLU's main mechanic is that it uses a monster's own skill, not that it gets hit, that's just a condition that changed a lot.

[Mikey_R]

One correction, FFX Kimahri learns Blue Magic/Ronso Rage from using Lancet, you don't need to be hit by the attack or even see it.

[Tanathya]

I'd make it a tank, but anything goes I guess.

Also, blue mages have a plethora of ways to learn skills, far from only getting hit by them.

FFXI: Don't know.

You have a slight chance to learn it by having the enemy execute the skill then killing it. The blue mage has to be alive to learn it.

[Linx0r]

I have done, ad nauseum.

A blue mage is iconic for learning it\\'s skills from enemies, typically by getting hit.

Getting hit as a job mechanic can only work for a tank.
Not to mention the classic blue magic spell set is already suitable for a tank.
Damage mitigation and weak gimmicky heals, debuffing utility and a few potent AoE damaging spells.
It already looks like a DRK/PLD skill set.

I highly doubt that the BLU is going to learn new spells on the fly while tanking a fight .....these would best be suited to learning via lvl quest and fighting/getting hit by a monster then. Saying that, BLU can totally be DPS. If it's a tank, are we learning new skills from every monster that we get hit by? It could work either way. There are enough threads in the Tank side on this subject....I was hoping that people had more DPS information and thoughts to contribute.

[Seraphor]

I highly doubt that the BLU is going to learn new spells on the fly while tanking a fight .....these would best be suited to learning via lvl quest and fighting/getting hit by a monster then. Saying that, BLU can totally be DPS. If it's a tank, are we learning new skills from every monster that we get hit by? It could work either way. There are enough threads in the Tank side on this subject....I was hoping that people had more DPS information and thoughts to contribute.

Of course it wouldn't learn abilities by getting hit.
The best way to translate this to ffxiv however is by giving BLU a job mechanic where getting hit fills a job gauge that allows them to use their blue magic spells.
Which would only work as a tank.

[Jandor]

I posted a Blue Mage DPS idea a long long time ago, back in ARR I think, essentially instead of learning from enemies it learned from allies instead. I don't think it was a very popular idea.

It had abilities along the theme seen below:
Learn: placed on a party member, tracks abilities used for the next 8s and stores the most potent one for use later.
Copy: placed on an ally, an aetherial version of your character appears next to the target and copies their attacks.
Learn II: used after copy, stores the aetherial version of your character from Copy for later use.
Assimilate: copies buffs from the targeted player onto yourself at half strength.
Diffusion: spreads buffs on yourself to other nearby party members.

[Linx0r]

I posted a Blue Mage DPS idea a long long time ago, back in ARR I think, essentially instead of learning from enemies it learned from allies instead. I don't think it was a very popular idea.

It had abilities along the theme seen below:
Learn: placed on a party member, tracks abilities used for the next 8s and stores the most potent one for use later.
Copy: placed on an ally, an aetherial version of your character appears next to the target and copies their attacks.
Learn II: used after copy, stores the aetherial version of your character from Copy for later use.
Assimilate: copies buffs from the targeted player onto yourself at half strength.
Diffusion: spreads buffs on yourself to other nearby party members.

I like this very much

[Pastahnak]

I'd like to see Blu be a heavy utility tank. I'd like to see rdm turn more into the heavy utility caster dps (because rn I think it's lacking for the amount of damage it does) rather than Blu. And I'd just much rather see a new tank or healer than more dps.