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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
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    I think a better comparison would be Paladin. When they are in Shield Oath they build gauge when they block, When they use Sword Oath they build gauge when they auto attack. So it's very similar to that but instead you build gauge from getting hit (just without the need for a block).
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    I posted a Blue Mage DPS idea a long long time ago, back in ARR I think, essentially instead of learning from enemies it learned from allies instead. I don't think it was a very popular idea.

    It had abilities along the theme seen below:
    Learn: placed on a party member, tracks abilities used for the next 8s and stores the most potent one for use later.
    Copy: placed on an ally, an aetherial version of your character appears next to the target and copies their attacks.
    Learn II: used after copy, stores the aetherial version of your character from Copy for later use.
    Assimilate: copies buffs from the targeted player onto yourself at half strength.
    Diffusion: spreads buffs on yourself to other nearby party members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    I posted a Blue Mage DPS idea a long long time ago, back in ARR I think, essentially instead of learning from enemies it learned from allies instead. I don't think it was a very popular idea.

    It had abilities along the theme seen below:
    Learn: placed on a party member, tracks abilities used for the next 8s and stores the most potent one for use later.
    Copy: placed on an ally, an aetherial version of your character appears next to the target and copies their attacks.
    Learn II: used after copy, stores the aetherial version of your character from Copy for later use.
    Assimilate: copies buffs from the targeted player onto yourself at half strength.
    Diffusion: spreads buffs on yourself to other nearby party members.
    A nightmare to balance I would assume, also would require an extreme amount of coordination to use the skills on the right time. We will never see anything like this but I gotta admit the idea is unique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    I posted a Blue Mage DPS idea a long long time ago, back in ARR I think, essentially instead of learning from enemies it learned from allies instead. I don't think it was a very popular idea.

    It had abilities along the theme seen below:
    Learn: placed on a party member, tracks abilities used for the next 8s and stores the most potent one for use later.
    Copy: placed on an ally, an aetherial version of your character appears next to the target and copies their attacks.
    Learn II: used after copy, stores the aetherial version of your character from Copy for later use.
    Assimilate: copies buffs from the targeted player onto yourself at half strength.
    Diffusion: spreads buffs on yourself to other nearby party members.
    I like this very much
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    I'd like to see Blu be a heavy utility tank. I'd like to see rdm turn more into the heavy utility caster dps (because rn I think it's lacking for the amount of damage it does) rather than Blu. And I'd just much rather see a new tank or healer than more dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    I posted a Blue Mage DPS idea a long long time ago, back in ARR I think, essentially instead of learning from enemies it learned from allies instead. I don't think it was a very popular idea.

    It had abilities along the theme seen below:
    Learn: placed on a party member, tracks abilities used for the next 8s and stores the most potent one for use later.
    Copy: placed on an ally, an aetherial version of your character appears next to the target and copies their attacks.
    Learn II: used after copy, stores the aetherial version of your character from Copy for later use.
    Assimilate: copies buffs from the targeted player onto yourself at half strength.
    Diffusion: spreads buffs on yourself to other nearby party members.
    Wouldn't that make it a mime?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Wouldn't that make it a mime?
    It would, I also pictured it having a special monster action tab to draw skills from instead of the cross-class skills though.
    I suppose it would be a mix of both jobs.

    Honestly, what I remember of the original idea wouldn't really work in current FFXIV.

    I wanted it to branch from a hypothetical musketeer class for one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GavynG View Post
    This mindset is why we still don't have Ranger or Thief.
    ...good?

    We do have Thief, it's called Rogue.
    We do have Ranger, it's called Bard.

    It's also the same reason we won't get Geomancer or Time Mage.

    Adding in dozens of identical jobs with slightly different variations, not only wastes tons of developer time and money that could be better spent on actual content, but it adds pointless and unecessary job bloat that will only confuse new players and screw with balance.

    I swear some people don't understand this game at all.

    I think you want FFXI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    We do have Thief, it's called Rogue.
    We do have Ranger, it's called Bard.

    It's also the same reason we won't get Geomancer or Time Mage.
    While I kinda agree with the first two statement, I completly disagree with Geomancer. Enough people showed great ideas about what Geomancer could be, and would be really different from the AST that we have. It's not because one time in the FF series a class was close to one that we know on ff14 that the ff14 version of this class will be similar. The best exemple would be RDM, which is way different in ff14 than in most ff (in my humble opinion).

    And in this thread, a lot of people have great and not so great ideas for BLU, each being vastly different from what ff14 proposes atm. While I don't see the classic BLU being usable here (learn spells from monsters by being hit, etc.), I do think that if it is implemented, they'll learn their spells by doing some "hunts" during their quests. I'm pretty confident that SE will make a pretty great BLU if they do it one day, since the new classes were pretty unique and great each time they added it (especially with Stormblood).

    I do love the idea of Jandor though, but is really hard to balance, and as someone said, closer to a mime than a BLU ._.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    ...good?

    We do have Thief, it's called Rogue.
    We do have Ranger, it's called Bard.

    It's also the same reason we won't get Geomancer or Time Mage.

    Adding in dozens of identical jobs with slightly different variations, not only wastes tons of developer time and money that could be better spent on actual content, but it adds pointless and unecessary job bloat that will only confuse new players and screw with balance.

    I swear some people don't understand this game at all.

    I think you want FFXI.
    we have geomancer its Conjurer
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