BLU DPS

[Tanathya]

And if SE and the playerbase were to think outside the (FFXIV) box, they could make BLU a more complex job than the others, having it go out there to actually learn spells like the rest of the series (be it by eating enemies, using items dropped from those selfsame mobs, or just like on FFXI). But no, everything has to be for everyone.

[Seraphor]

While I kinda agree with the first two statement, I completly disagree with Geomancer. Enough people showed great ideas about what Geomancer could be, and would be really different from the AST that we have. It's not because one time in the FF series a class was close to one that we know on ff14 that the ff14 version of this class will be similar. The best exemple would be RDM, which is way different in ff14 than in most ff (in my humble opinion).

Various reasons why we won't get a straight up Geomancer. Most of all being that they're already established within ffxiv lore to be nearly identical to Conjurers.

They could have made Geomancer something unique, but instead they wrote themselves into a corner by making it a healer that uses wind, earth and water elemental spells.

[Shurrikhan]

Various reasons why we won't get a straight up Geomancer. Most of all being that they're already established within ffxiv lore to be nearly identical to Conjurers.

They could have made Geomancer something unique, but instead they wrote themselves into a corner by making it a healer that uses wind, earth and water elemental spells.

Tbf, they could use the Soulfont aspect of WHM to further move it away from CNJ, and make CNJ/GEO a job in its own right. The Lifestream motif could be the one remainder from the water (and healing) aspect of CNJ to remain with CNJ, while CNJ/GEO take a more direct Water approach.

[Cidel]

Various reasons why we won't get a straight up Geomancer. Most of all being that they're already established within ffxiv lore to be nearly identical to Conjurers.

They could have made Geomancer something unique, but instead they wrote themselves into a corner by making it a healer that uses wind, earth and water elemental spells.

I'm loath to admit it, but based on the AST job quest line, it really feels like the devs decided to give Geomancer nothing more than a "cameo appearance" in-name only. It's almost as if the devs said: "hey, I don't think we'll make Geomancer an actual job in XIV, so let's just mention them in another job's quest line and basically write them off as a slightly different version of an already existing thing. There, it's technically in XIV."

It's a damn shame.

Tbf, they could use the Soulfont aspect of WHM to further move it away from CNJ, and make CNJ/GEO a job in its own right. The Lifestream motif could be the one remainder from the water (and healing) aspect of CNJ to remain with CNJ, while CNJ/GEO take a more direct Water approach.

I don't even think the devs like nor want to have classes being any more a part of what they already are. Classes seem like baggage they were stuck with from XIV 1.0. They tried branching 2 jobs (of different roles though) from one class and they've said "never again."

Really, the only thing that can save Geomancer from being "that-one-job-mentioned-in-some-other-job's-story-that's-too-similar-to-be-it's-own-job" is some terribly creative writing like: "Oh hey, this one NPC learned how to be a different kind of Geomancer, job quest starts here!"

I'd love for Geomancers to be something unique and a possible new job candidate, but how they were introduced into XIV doesn't leave a good outlook.

Sorry to derail the BLU thread further. But yeah, Bluemage, sure, why not. Love em

[Seraphor]

Really, the only thing that can save Geomancer from being "that-one-job-mentioned-in-some-other-job's-story-that's-too-similar-to-be-it's-own-job" is some terribly creative writing like: "Oh hey, this one NPC learned how to be a different kind of Geomancer, job quest starts here!"

I'd love for Geomancers to be something unique and a possible new job candidate, but how they were introduced into XIV doesn't leave a good outlook.
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My thoughts exactly, in fact I even came up with a viable concept.
Geometrist. Like AST is a combination of Time Mage, Astrologer and Gambler, this would be a combination of Arithmetist and Geomancer as a Healer.
Using ground-based aetherprobes to set up AoE healing fields mixed with some geometry skills, with the particular aspect of that terrain’s aether dictates what unique effects you can use, aka, geomancy.

[Ordoric]

blu could work if the added debuff style spells back in the game that you have to learn or have coppied into your body via quest

[wereotter]

I think a better comparison would be Paladin. When they are in Shield Oath they build gauge when they block, When they use Sword Oath they build gauge when they auto attack. So it's very similar to that but instead you build gauge from getting hit (just without the need for a block).

Kind of like current Sword Oath in DPS stance and Blood Price when in tank stance, then.

That would seem to be a simple enough system, would be interested to see how that would work if they actually took the idea. It would make sense to have your blue magics swap based on stance like warrior. So skills like mighty guard or pearl wind in tank stance and flame breath and other offensive skills in DPS stance. Would let them expand the amount of blue magic you could have.

[Pastahnak]

They already said Rogue is supposed to be Thief. There is a reason why Rogue has the skill Mug. There was a reason why they didn't call it Thief but I can't remember it was said in a interview. I think it was something like it being weird the WoL being called a Thief so they decided on Rogue. I can't remember the wording exactly, I would need to find it. Also Ranger would most likely be a selfish DPS ranged class. I would rather they not add another selfish dps class, they can't balance them.

They basically say it in game, the rogues guild's old name was the upright thieves that kept the pirates from getting out of line. The rogues guild is just a cleaned up name given to them.

[Linx0r]

I think a better comparison would be Paladin. When they are in Shield Oath they build gauge when they block, When they use Sword Oath they build gauge when they auto attack. So it's very similar to that but instead you build gauge from getting hit (just without the need for a block).

So then just play PLD lol

[Ordoric]

i think a combinations of the "meta" and the devs not wanting to be creative with the class system killed them in the long run .it could have let us to alot more.