When eureka dies

[Vstarstruck]

Most people I find that does the complaints are those I cited. It's not anassumption, its what I've been bumping around the OF, Game and Discord servers. And wow you extrapolate things a lot. If you don't like the content just don't play it. I did not say that it's people I've been talking too and generalized too much, sorry about that.

Why this whole discussion is so two-sided. Eureka has both positive and negative points. Everyone who complains this is just another Diadem can't realize that you just do similar things these places and dungeons as well? That is killing a bunch of mobs and ocasional bosses. I'll should calling everything Sastasha from now on.

You need to disclose that then, for all I know is your trying to make the place look better then what it is, something many are doing.

Where are the good points though? So far I have not seen any past people need to be forced to talk to each other to see cooperation? Or maybe it is because it is more laxed you wont hear "You do not pay for my sub" as much. You are oversimplifying calling everything "Sastasha" when it comes to dungeons, I think I may have discovered why people like it:

let me add to your argument, the difference between doing dungeons, raids, more so current extreme and savage is the challenge of being close to 100% uptime as you can while you do mechanics. Maybe the people that like this diadem do not know how to push for constant uptime as they do mechanics? In order to achieve that you need to know the fight really well, know what is coming next so you can use your cds and ocgds properly (i/e do not wildfire if you are about to phase transition, pop a swiftcast so you can do mechanic while on CD, so it is not hurting your uptime.

regardless there is no need to play your best in diadem 3.0, there is no challenge, maybe people that like this simply like the more laxed nature? vidu keep in mind who you are debating with, as I am not the only one to say it:

A lot of places, cept maybe savage, do not strive for 100% uptime. "it is only this or what" so it is pretty easy to see who is carrying some run from that. So diadem 3.0 offers no challenge and you can simply afk there. such a point of view will stand as an outlier of your statement, and I am left with if you oversimplied it with a bias trying to make the place sound better then it is. To me it is obvious people will not fit unto those 2 categories. To take it a step further, I need to question how does one define hate for the game? Can you apply such a statement to someone that finds fun in the game for pure story, pure rp, or crafting? What if the person doesn't do battle content at all or care for diadem 3.0 specifically? How can you claim they hate the game in such situations?

"Why do you find a need to jump on a over-dramatization in some replies? Other times, you accuse people with whom you're in a dialogue by labeling, categorizing them and/or their opinions as a fallacy (opinion) and/or white knight (character)?"

Yes I am acquainted with "questionable cause" fallacies, no need to quote a wiki, but that is neither my question nor the intent of it. Also you didn't explain, you individually read it as implying it.

I simply see my self is honest. If someone appears to be twisting things and make things sound better then what the situation is, it may be to blind defending or something. I do not see my self as "over-dramagzaion" I am just trying to express how I see what is going on, and I am not sure how else to say "You are just defending it for the sake of defending it without real rational reasoning. It just seems you just accept whatever is given to you. Such concepts are ok when it is a gift, however when you have many people paying for something, and you tell people just accept it, this is unfair to them. Thus this runs in why it appears people are simply white knighting. I may say blind to reflect the idea they are not seeing past "place is great because I find it fun" Such acts does not improve the game and without improvements you can't increase appeal to different personalities. Maybe SE can't do changes because servers can't handle having too many subs?

[ManuelBravo]

I simply see my self is honest. If someone appears to be twisting things and make things sound better then what the situation is, it may be to blind defending or something. I do not see my self as "over-dramagzaion" I am just trying to express how I see what is going on, and I am not sure how else to say "You are just defending it for the sake of defending it without real rational reasoning. It just seems you just accept whatever is given to you. Such concepts are ok when it is a gift, however when you have many people paying for something, and you tell people just accept it, this is unfair to them. Thus this runs in why it appears people are simply white knighting. I may say blind to reflect the idea they are not seeing past "place is great because I find it fun" Such acts does not improve the game and without improvements you can't increase appeal to different personalities. Maybe SE can't do changes because servers can't handle having too many subs?

Talk about an understatement, being can't even understand simple perspectives of other people.

First of you should really think about how you response and perhaps step back and realize that you are dramatizing your responses. Just stick with facts and cut the extras. Express your self that way and perhaps you may get more people to agree with you and not feel that that your missing the whole point.

Second; it's not a matter of accepting what is given to you, it's more of getting logical response about new content. Think about it, many people like Eureka, many people hate Eureka, yet I think that for being content that has been out less than a month and thinking its terrible because it's not to their liking is childish. At the very least try it out for a month. Some of us have already almost completed all of it's current content, including myself, so it really is not hard, SE has made XP adjustments based on feed back. Regardless of what a company does their will never be a 100% acceptance rate on content. If you step back and look at the bigger picture all companies change based on feed back. As an example take relics. All games MMO's / RPG's have some type of endgame weapon. Over the years online one have gone from extreme to a joke. Why do you think that is? The bottom line, to make money. Some of us enjoy hard content, and get upset when the company over nerfs something that is already easy enough. Again every person sees it differently and are entitled to speak out. No one is defending for the sake of defending without real rational reasoning. Now lets look at what makes a STRONG argument;

A strong argument is a non-deductive argument that succeeds in providing probable, but not conclusive, logical support for its conclusion. A weak argument is a non-deductive argument that fails to provide probable support for its conclusion. ( hence drop the dramatization )

This is basic to any company along with terms work smart not hard. Just like in any other business a company that works and achieves 100% every time will have a hard time next time. A company understands is not in their best interest to add too musch stress to their staff, it's not smart specially for programmers. ( If you have ever been to a fan fest Yoshi makes fun of this during Q& A ) company that gradually works with staff and their clients have a better chance of survival. While the company will never have 100% satisfaction it has to gauge what percentage is being affected the most. The current housing issue is an excellent example of this. SE has to gauge, optional service, or expanding content. in another words a priority list.Changes take time, I do programming and the grinding ours to make sure to get it to run smooth is no easy task. So please stop with the needless stuff, if your going to express yourself at the very least express your self on your perspective and drop the dramatization in it.