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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    fallacy: a mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound argument.
    Nope, does not fit what I said.

    I was replying to this:
    Most people that are calling the content bad either don't like the game to begin with or think the NM AFK train is "the best" and that's why the content sucks to them.
    How is pointing out what someone did, then proceeding to explain why I said it was Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
    "how do you draw the conclusion most people that hate this place also hate the game to begin with? For the other reason, you are suggesting people should aoe farm 1 hr + that leads to Carpal Tunnel? how is this the same as mashing hard core rotation for say 5 mins, take a break and repeat? Even in dungeons you get brief breaks, I never felt so strained in doing something like this before. The only time I got close to this is building large walls, and the clicking overload there is turning in like 400? materials when it asks for them 3-5 sections at a time. This is a large part where I am just going to get level 20 and be done with it, I am not even going to go after one of those i350 gear because I do not wanna sit there clicking all the conversions."

    How can you accuse me of fallacy when I explained how I drew the conclusion the way I did, where the post I was accusing did no such thing?
    Again, you seem to misconstrue what I asked but I will admit it lacks clarity: Let me rephrase it and demonstrate a succinct question to which I expect a succinct answer. Your replies are too verbose for my personal taste:

    "Why do you find a need to jump on a over-dramatization in some replies? Other times, you accuse people with whom you're in a dialogue by labeling, categorizing them and/or their opinions as a fallacy (opinion) and/or white knight (character)?"

    Yes I am acquainted with "questionable cause" fallacies, no need to quote a wiki, but that is neither my question nor the intent of it. Also you didn't explain, you individually read it as implying it.

    Most people that are calling the content bad either don't like the game to begin with or think the NM AFK train is "the best" and that's why the content sucks to them.
    This is not a fallacy, its a broad statement that is prone to mistakes because its a broad statement. It is not claiming to be factual because it lacks data. It's an opinion. And even lacking data, they can express that by the feedback they perceive from those who say those things.

    You over-analyze things, just like you extrapolated in both zuzu's quote and manuel's explanation. I understand you're smart, but you need to reign in and take things one step at a time, you make too many mistakes by assuming things are going down x or y road.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    For my song I was just trying put some humor on the situation to try calm people, it was no way serious. I thought that was clear by the way I said "diadem 3.0" killed final fantasy (note the lacking of XIV, was done on purpose, to reflect there was hyperbole suggesting it killed the complete franchise)
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    Last edited by Mahrze; 03-29-2018 at 06:31 AM.
    If you say so.