When eureka dies

[Liam_Harper]

Maybe one idea to keep Eureka going would be to expand on the elemental leveling and include general leveling.

For example, instead of scaling to 300ilv, everyone scales to a set health/mana pool regardless of level. You get regular exp for mobs/fates in addition to elemental exp. Now you can go back there anytime and level alts.

The current issue with Eureka, Anemos is YOU.

The players, the player base, all of us. That is its LARGEST ISSUE. People unwilling and unable to communicate or co-operate.
People who don't give a flying crap and set other players back. People who make other players' experience a nightmare.

You mean the Fate trains that will take in anyone regardless of level and the fact you'll always get a rez from another player, even if you're across the map and ask in shout? The community is clearly the problem with Eureka, right.

[Synrin]

You mean the Fate trains that will take in anyone regardless of level and the fact you'll always get a rez from another player, even if you're across the map and ask in shout? The community is clearly the problem with Eureka, right.

How about groups ignoring low levels, people running over your corpse when a NM pops, people popping and killing 3 low level NMs at the same time even though it is of no real profit for them and thus completely f*** up the timer, people pulling things they shouldn't and wiping a whole bunch of others because why not?

And no, I didn't get the ress across the map. You must've been really lucky in your instances.

[Pomelo]

Eureka is one of the best things I have played and I've been playing since beta

*chokes on my food*

[ManuelBravo]

Thank you! I've tried my best to relay the points that I wanted to make. Hopefully I'll do it right this time as well.

Very good points your making and experience can vary based on players and how they approach content.
Lets see, stack able furniture and gear is a nice idea, the only problem is the programing having to do coding. Many people don't understand the time it takes to program and furniture and gear are dye able that makes it really hard to make it stack. It is a great idea, unfortunately the furniture for eureka would fall under that category. Then the priority on it, other bigger issues or minor details.

Now from a different perspective altogether: Let's say Eureka stays exactly as it is now for the entirety of Stormblood and 5.x. How are you supposed to solo it then?
Sure leveling may be doable and you can slowly get Protean crystals. But what about the Anemos crystals? If you were alone in an instance I doubt you'd be able to take any fate on solo, unless you tried really hard and are playing as the right job. And then I'm not even talking about Pazuzu. Unless there'll be a complete overhaul it's likely that people who want to do this after a couple of expansions will just not get the chance to do it.
I don't want them to make it more solo-friendly as of now, but I am worried for those who want to do it when we reach future expansions.

Hmmm the fun thing about Eureka is that the difficulty of NM vary depending on how many people are in that instance. Have you ever been in an instance where perhaps there is only 40 people left? Mid level Fates end in an average of 3- 5 minutes with just one full party. Some mobs get affected and die a lot faster also. So they have taken that into consideration. Now I know their can different ways to look at this. Perhaps they will have lower Fates or adjust make items available in a different way for loot. Kind of hard to say, If I had to make a suggestion I would probably give a boost to animos based gear a dmg and defensive property x10 if doing solo. It would be just a suggestion for later on once it really becomes old content. After all it's only been out less than a month.

While I could do that, I still see it as an issue that I have to go out of my way to help my friends, whereas I kind of expect me to be able to play with my friends and help them out on any level being in End-Game Content. Why do we have end-game content in end-game content? Seems a bit far fetched to me.

Is it far fetch? Unless you coordinate with your friends to take on content at the same time it will never really be that way. While they may implement a level sync option later on the xp penalty is what makes it difficult. ( I would not be surprise if they start selling jump potions for Eureka later on -.-; ) Think of it this way; how much xp penalty should be done for each individual that are different levels? While it seems an easy enough question from coding perspective the values can vary. If the whole party wipes and are forced to restart the level sync rule seems eh most obvious. While we the consumer see it as an easy task, from a programming side, depending on staff, it's a few months project there. Which then becomes and issue of touch ups. The testing, the debugging argh I can imagine it now. Kind of why the Eureka was delayed 5 months and even then some bugs where found. In my opinion it was worth the wait. There probably will be be an over haul just not as fast as we want it to be. In Yoshis words I can already imagine him saying " Look forward to it "


For your last point this can probably summarize it;

Fill in content. Nefs, maps, they like to make some kind progress and while it may not be what we are waiting for it is used as a tool to ensure that consumers feed back is not being ignored. Maps are a lot easier to do than over write/haul excising content.

[ManuelBravo]

*chokes on my food*

If you quote me, at least quote me properly and not just a portion. It could be misunderstood. Watch out for that lego on the floor. /em pats Pomelo Elmbrook on the back.

[Pomelo]

not just a portion

But tldr I just zoomed in as I choked.

[Gleipni]

Well,im not really surpised that eureka is already dying.

Come,apart from relic there is litteraly nothing to do so,yeah you get your relic and you dont put a foot in there.
FF14 motto with content "doable in a matter of hours,and the next content will be in 6month,please look forward to it"

[Laerad3993]

Well,im not really surpised that eureka is already dying.

Come,apart from relic there is litteraly nothing to do so,yeah you get your relic and you dont put a foot in there.
FF14 motto with content "doable in a matter of hours,and the next content will be in 6month,please look forward to it"

I have made 14m just from the lockboxes in there. It is an excellent way to farm materia, idk what you’re talking about when you say there’s nothing to do, lol. I go in purely to turn in boxes for cracked clusters, materia V/VI, and platinum allagan coins. In addition to helping people get leveled. Maybe depending on the person, there’s nothing to do.

[ManuelBravo]

Well,im not really surpised that eureka is already dying.

Come,apart from relic there is litteraly nothing to do so,yeah you get your relic and you dont put a foot in there.
FF14 motto with content "doable in a matter of hours,and the next content will be in 6month,please look forward to it"

True unless your a relic enthusiast their really is not much to do with the exception of maxing out all gear and farming loot boxes for materia. That and the occasional help a friend out. Darn those loot boxes 6k one click at a time not enough room.

[MilanFrozen]

When Eureka dies, they'll make Diadem 4.0