Quote Originally Posted by Crescents View Post
Surely you can say how it's unhepful to simple say, it's so broken without any reasonable alternatives then?

Unfortunately party finder has become 11+ when I try to use it. We have a duty system for other instanced items, I'd love them to apply it to Eureka. Sure if you're looking form your own party im sure theres people that need exactly what you do instance PF would be helpful but Eureka is far from broken without it which is what the OP is implying. I agree the magia board needs to be reworked or totally removed and im sorry but at level 17+ I was in parties and formed parties that were taking lvl 4 and under players so its not my experience they are abandoned.
Alternatives would be nice, but what the OP did was give examples of why they felt it was broken, which is useful. The perspective of someone dropping into the content and what they felt and their point of view is a valuable resource for someone planning content changes or even future content. Sure we can "educate" them on the best way to do it or the proper way to do it, but telling them their experience was invalid and they're foolish helps very little.
The content is 2 weeks old, the "zerg" is still spanning a decent amount of levels and there will always be a few charitable people in a group trying out new content. Future populations will tend to be far more spread apart level wise and likely limited to people doing the relic grind only, I hope people are there to help, but it will depend on them being charitable for charities sake, something I will not bet money on. This is something I really hope I'm wrong about.

Quote Originally Posted by Crescents View Post
Yes every relic is, but every relic wasn't a constant 3 hour streak of doing my rotation or standing around being useless while others did work. I would say this is the fault of the way the playerbase chooses to be and without ridiculous incentives we won't see any change, and I would say compared to other relics this is a breath of fresh air, it's sociable and its not another tome/light grind until you cry sure this is boring and every relic was but you're right it doesnt have to be but as it stands Eureka is a giant leap forward and with feedback hopefully it can be something people enjoy.
You can bet money that players will always, ALWAYS find the easiest way to do content and then the majority will only do that until the content is spent or changed (see "loot cave" from destiny) . Expecting them not to is setting your system up for failure. Feedback like what we don't enjoy and what we think doesn't work. I don't think incentives are the ONLY way to encourage people to assist underlevels but it's probably the easiest to add and path of least resistance has been the norm. Can you honestly say If I ran an alt and asked people to party up and do the mob chain and only invite people near our level as the content seems to intend.. I'd not be looking a very long while?